stbs on sale on ebay

[poolielee316uk]

just had a look on ebay and i was gobsmacked to see countless set top boxes for sale and people were actually BIDDING!!.

i was under the impression virgin keep an eye on this as it was against their terms and conditions to sell or attempt to sell their equipment.one poor souls bid was nearly £40 for a v+ scientific atlanta

am i right in thinking this boxes wouldnt work and technically if you rang virgin to pair these boxes to your account you would be held liable and cut off for recieving stolen goods?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by poolielee316uk

just had a look on ebay and i was gobsmacked to see countless set top boxes for sale and people were actually BIDDING!!.

i was under the impression virgin keep an eye on this as it was against their terms and conditions to sell or attempt to sell their equipment.one poor souls bid was nearly £40 for a v+ scientific atlanta

am i right in thinking this boxes wouldnt work and technically if you rang virgin to pair these boxes to your account you would be held liable and cut off for recieving stolen goods?

Your correct. Plus with the card swap in progress all they are buying is expensive door stops.

Problem is there is a sucker born everyday

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Your correct. Plus with the card swap in progress all they are buying is expensive door stops.

Problem is there is a sucker born everyday

If they are happy enough to bid on the boxes then they deserve to get a non working box without any chance of a refund.

[jtaylor06]

There's even some going for less than £10, forcing people to think they've made a good saving.

Couldn't eBay put a ban on "V+" listings?

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by jtaylor06

There's even some going for less than £10, forcing people to think they've made a good saving.

Couldn't eBay put a ban on "V+" listings?

You would have thought that VM would contact Ebay and advise them that stolen goods are being sold on there site.

aren't ebay actually breaking the law in allowing them to be sold on the site?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

You would have thought that VM would contact Ebay and advise them that stolen goods are being sold on there site.

VM do. Ebay also frequently remove listings. However, they spring up faster than either can deal with them.

[JPoll]

Fools and their money. A bit of research easily reveals the futility of buying these boxes.

Vm should do more to retrieve their equipment from ex-customers though.

How long left in the card swap process before all doggy STB's are make obsolete?

[sollp]

Originally Posted by JPoll

Fools and their money. A bit of research easily reveals the futility of buying these boxes.

Vm should do more to retrieve their equipment from ex-customers though.

Yes they should have and are in the process of doing just that

[Begize]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

VM do. Ebay also frequently remove listings. However, they spring up faster than either can deal with them.

Probably true, but in my experience, eBay really don't do much to stop repeat offenders. I used to report listings I found, and giving eBay credit, 90% of the time, they would take them down within 24 hours.

What used to really annoy me was the same sellers constantly relisting stuff again and again, even to the point of doctoring the same photo on the listing that got taken down to remove Virgin / NTL logo's..... and eBay let them get away with it! I've noticed more and more recently with eBay that they are focusing on what makes them money rather than actually being more pro-active and linear thinking in stopping dodgy listings.

As people have said though, if VM was better at collecting old equipment, it wouldn't happen.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Begize

Probably true, but in my experience, eBay really don't do much to stop repeat offenders. I used to report listings I found, and giving eBay credit, 90% of the time, they would take them down within 24 hours.

What used to really annoy me was the same sellers constantly relisting stuff again and again, even to the point of doctoring the same photo on the listing that got taken down to remove Virgin / NTL logo's..... and eBay let them get away with it! I've noticed more and more recently with eBay that they are focusing on what makes them money rather than actually being more pro-active and linear thinking in stopping dodgy listings.

As people have said though, if VM was better at collecting old equipment, it wouldn't happen.

As I said above if people are gullible enough to buy this kit then it will be their own fault when they find it is completely worthless and no one at Virgin Media will touch their box with the proverbial dirty stick and the seller disappears like smoke.

[Begize]

Originally Posted by martyh

aren't ebay actually breaking the law in allowing them to be sold on the site?

Yes, technically they are stolen goods as they do not belong to the customer so cannot be theirs to sell, unless Virgin have charged them for it. Unfortunately, if you put in a listing "Virgin told me to get rid of this myself" or "Virgin sold this to me", eBay take that at face value.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Begize

Yes, technically they are stolen goods as they do not belong to the customer so cannot be theirs to sell, unless Virgin have charged them for it. Unfortunately, if you put in a listing "Virgin told me to get rid of this myself" or "Virgin sold this to me", eBay take that at face value.

As Virginmedia would never tell a customer such rubbish and Ebay are more than aware that such things never ever happen that puts Ebay in the wrong for allowing any such postings.

[Begize]

Originally Posted by Masque

As I said above if people are gullible enough to buy this kit then it will be their own fault when they find it is completely worthless and no one at Virgin Media will touch their box with the proverbial dirty stick and the seller disappears like smoke.

There are two kinds of people buying these on eBay, the un-educated and those who want to try and alter the box to receive free TV, possibly even selling them on after doing so, sometimes on eBay itself. Obviously the later deserve no sympathy, but regarding the un-eduated, don't forget that for those people used to Sky, it's quite ok to buy and sell boxes and just ring up Sky to get them activated. Perhaps Virgin, as well as clamping down on non returned kit, should do some kind of customer awareness program to explain this isn't the case with them?

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Originally Posted by Masque

As Virginmedia would never tell a customer such rubbish and Ebay are more than aware that such things never ever happen that puts Ebay in the wrong for allowing any such postings.

I tend to agree, but it still happens.