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Old 18-03-2009, 12:56   #1
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Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

When will they learn?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7950540.stm

I thought Innocent until proven guilty applied to all of us but some in the force think they know better.
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Old 18-03-2009, 12:59   #2
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Re: Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

Shocking. And these people uphold the law?
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Old 18-03-2009, 13:02   #3
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Re: Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

"Mr Ahmad is separately accused of raising money to support terrorism in Chechnya and Afghanistan via websites and e-mails"

trouble just follows this man around .
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Re: Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

'accused'
Until proven guilty i say he deserves his pay out..

If he is guilty he can come back on his knees with my tax money! lol
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Re: Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

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"Mr Ahmad is separately accused of raising money to support terrorism in Chechnya and Afghanistan via websites and e-mails"

trouble just follows this man around .
He could be Satan himself for all I care. The day we start acting like extremist nutters, we become like them and they have won. There is absolutely no excuse for the treatment he received.
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Re: Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

i think the thread title is wrong the boys in blue were doing what they were told to do imo,also if he is involved in raising funds for terriorists he deserves all the bad treatment he recieved.
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Re: Some Boys in blue haven't a clue

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i think the thread title is wrong the boys in blue were doing what they were told to do imo
By whom?

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also if he is involved in raising funds for terriorists he deserves all the bad treatment he recieved.
If he is guilty of an offence, he deserves whatever a judge throws at him. He does not deserve a random beating at the hands of police or anyone else.
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i think the thread title is wrong the boys in blue were doing what they were told to do imo,also if he is involved in raising funds for terriorists he deserves all the bad treatment he recieved.
Since when has it been acceptable for Police to beat up anybody. They may well have been told to take him into custody, they wouldn't have been instructed to beat him up.

IF he is involved in any illegal activities then he is entitled to a fair trial. IF he is found to be guilty then he will be punished by the laws of that court. Police carrying out their own justice are no better than the thugs/criminals they are supposed to be protecting us from.{IMHO}
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Since when has it been acceptable for Police to beat up anybody. They may well have been told to take him into custody, they wouldn't have been instructed to beat him up.

IF he is involved in any illegal activities then he is entitled to a fair trial. IF he is found to be guilty then he will be punished by the laws of that court. Police carrying out their own justice are no better than the thugs/criminals they are supposed to be protecting us from.{IMHO}
it is only my opinion ,but i cant see anything wrong if he has any connection with the mentioned website then he deserved what he got. if he is innocent then 60,000 pounds should make him feel a whole lot better.
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I would take a good kicking for 60k!
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Old 18-03-2009, 15:51   #11
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Since when has it been acceptable for Police to beat up anybody. They may well have been told to take him into custody, they wouldn't have been instructed to beat him up.
Oh I can FULLY believe they were following SOP (and were bloody well enjoying it). Why do you think the IPCC investigation was a whitewash?

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IF he is involved in any illegal activities then he is entitled to a fair trial. IF he is found to be guilty then he will be punished by the laws of that court. Police carrying out their own justice are no better than the thugs/criminals they are supposed to be protecting us from.{IMHO}
And what a recruiting boon to fundamental Islamism that would be as well. If he didn't hate the West before, he probably does now and no surpise either.

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it is only my opinion ,but i cant see anything wrong if he has any connection with the mentioned website then he deserved what he got. if he is innocent then 60,000 pounds should make him feel a whole lot better.
After six years, they couldn't come up with any evidence. So, I would conclude that there isn't any. Sixty thousand pounds is a very little amount to compensate for this sort of attack. The CICA award would probably have been more.
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Oh I can FULLY believe they were following SOP (and were bloody well enjoying it). Why do you think the IPCC investigation was a whitewash?



And what a recruiting boon to fundamental Islamism that would be as well. If he didn't hate the West before, he probably does now and no surpise either.

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After six years, they couldn't come up with any evidence. So, I would conclude that there isn't any. Sixty thousand pounds is a very little amount to compensate for this sort of attack. The CICA award would probably have been more.
you have just attacked both sides of the debate what point are you trying to make
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Err...if you say so.
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i think the thread title is wrong the boys in blue were doing what they were told to do imo,also if he is involved in raising funds for terriorists he deserves all the bad treatment he recieved.
Well said that man, he was doing wrong by raising funds for his cronies overseas so IMO he deserved everything he got.
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Well said that man, he was doing wrong by raising funds for his cronies overseas so IMO he deserved everything he got.
and if he's found innocent of those accusations for what did he deserve the kicking?
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