30-07-2008, 14:35
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Usenet speed issue
Hi there,
I have the 10MB broadband line from VM and until two days ago I have been fine downloading via newsgroups. I use a third party newsgroup called Newsdemon.
I have been able to download at 1.2 Mb/s for the last 3 months, however in the last few days, my connection will start at 1.2MB and then drop to 75k within a few minutes
I then check a online speed checker which give me 1.2 Mbs speed. So I called VM and they said no issue at there end and I have not be throttled (STM)
If I close my newsgroup downloader and start it again, I get 1.2bs for a few minutes then back to 75.K. I contacted Newsdemon and they said VM issue. I have tried different downloading software and different computers and get the same problem, so the issue is with the internet.
I have been taking the **** I guess with downloading 30Gig a night... However I wonder if they have now blocked my ports, which they deny.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a fix?
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30-07-2008, 15:15
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Which news servers are you using?
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30-07-2008, 15:16
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Europe.newsdemon.com
Port 8080
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30-07-2008, 15:19
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Try using the other ports on offer and see if you get the same problem.
Kymmy
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30-07-2008, 15:59
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Good point, I have used all three ports I can...
Thanks for your help though!
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30-07-2008, 17:00
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Try downloading a file from VM's news server; if they're specifically throttling newsgroups, you'll get a similar speed.
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30-07-2008, 17:01
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Re: Usenet speed issue
i have heard in the past of newsdemon throttling accounts after they download a specific amount
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30-07-2008, 17:49
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Thanks for the replies, I have an unlimited account with newsdemon and say they are not throttling me.
I will do some test with VM newsgroups and HTP downloads and let you know the results.
Cheers,
PsYFuR
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Just downloaded a gig test file from:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download/
So the newsgroup is screwed either VM are filtering the traffic or newsdemon are at fault....
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30-07-2008, 19:35
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Did you try downloading from VM's news servers? HTTP downloads won't be throttled, but I remember Traxdata talking about Newsgroup throttling a while ago. A test download from VM's servers should confirm if it's application management or not.
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30-07-2008, 21:29
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Using VM newsgroups now but I got stung with STM ROFL!!!
---------- Post added at 20:29 ---------- Previous post was at 20:16 ----------
VM Newsgroups work a treat and for some reason I get much faster speed than the newsdemon ones that I pay for....
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30-07-2008, 21:47
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Re: Usenet speed issue
It looks like a Newsdemon problem then, or possibly VM are routing it in a weird way.
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30-07-2008, 22:15
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jelly
It looks like a Newsdemon problem then, or possibly VM are routing it in a weird way.
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Agreed!
Just out of interest has anyone had any experience with SSL news group? I am looking at Giganews and they say that SSL downloading could avoid STM.
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30-07-2008, 23:16
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Re: Usenet speed issue
Usenet works fine for me, 2.1MB after midnight on most evenings.
What you could try is one of the 3-4GB tests some of the usenet providers offer port hop and use SSL, you can verify if youve been throttled.
Personally I'm with newshosting as they have a Euro presence, I also use SSL for downloads no matter what I download.
I have noticed a bit of a slow down in the evenings but I suspect its just getting slower with more people coming on board.
I do a lot of Distro hopping and developing with Rpath hence a lot of downloading, also I have Vista, Mac and XP flavour machines, PS3 and a Wii all require patching like its going out of fashion.
Steve
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31-07-2008, 09:37
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Re: Usenet speed issue
It doesn't matter if the data is SSL or not, you'll still be throttled.
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31-07-2008, 09:45
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Re: Usenet speed issue
IIRC I used to use newsdemon and they have always had issues with NTL/Telewest connection I used to get crap speeds but it sounds like a newsdemon problem, with the problems I have had I would advise people to stay away from newsdemon if Virgin Media is your ISP, Giganews does seem the way to go
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