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Old 31-01-2008, 09:00   #1
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Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7219097.stm
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Old 31-01-2008, 10:00   #2
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

Carers save this country millions of pounds a year, they deserve better protection.
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

The child just has a hearing problem. Why would anyone need a lot of days off?
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At the moment, I care for my fiance and my employers (the NHS) are very good at letting me have time off to take her to appointments and such-like. I do still wander sometimes if it'll come and bite me in the backside at some point.

In my view, family comes above everything else. I welcome any new laws/guidance in regard to carers' rights.
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

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The child just has a hearing problem. Why would anyone need a lot of days off?
"Ms Coleman was already working with the law firm when she gave birth to a disabled son in 2002.

He suffers from serious respiratory problems, including apnoeic attacks - an involuntary halt to breathing."

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I have a close personal connection to a special school and can testify to the enormous problems the parents suffer, not only dealing with the various physical/mental difficulties their children suffer but with the ever increasing pressure put upon them in the workplace. Any reasonable help offered to such people is much needed/deserved and this decision is long overdue.
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

NTL effectively put me out of my job as I have handicapped twins... but I was glad to go once they agreed to the proper redundancy package I was entitled to.
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

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Carers save this country millions of pounds a year, they deserve better protection.
without carers a heck of a lot of people young and old would be left to try and fend for them selves,which for a lot of them would be an impossibility,not nice.
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"Ms Coleman was already working with the law firm when she gave birth to a disabled son in 2002.

He suffers from serious respiratory problems, including apnoeic attacks - an involuntary halt to breathing."
The article originally said just a hearing problem, it was last edited at 10:39 today. This is the reason for my first statement.
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The article originally said just a hearing problem, it was last edited at 10:39 today. This is the reason for my first statement.
Even so, hearing problems per se are not necessarily trivial matters (especially in the very young) and may require frequent hospital visits etc.
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

This is excellent news

And hopefully companies thinking of instructing this firm for employment law advise will think again too
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

It is all very well various groups demanding special rights and priveledges but the fact is that most people operate in commercial environments where such rights actually cost someone else time and money.

That cost doesnt go away.

If someone thinks they have or are granted a right to disappear from work to do something else then;

(a) do they expect to still be paid for the time they are away?

(b) who foots the bill for lost production?

(c) who does the work whilst that person is away?

Speaking for my own work environment, If i have to provide work cover for a person who is off sick,i get paid a proportion of their salary (pro rata) and they loose it. Simple as that.

It seems like the only people in this country who do not have any special claim to "rights" and "benefits" are the ordinary caucasian,heterosexual,long suffering,non complaining male.

Genuine cases excepted of course and all usual disclaimers apply.

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We didnt hear from the child's father on the BBC news..?
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

Well we all pay in taxes for services/benefits we don't necessarily use directly don't we and since the people in question are by definition the most vulnerable in society I think we all have a duty to help. It may have escaped you but the majority always tend to pay for the minority in one way or another and that's as it should be in a civilised society. Furthermore carers save the taxpayer vast sums of money which would otherwise have to be spent on providing long term care to the sick. disabled etc. If you are ever unfortunate enough to become disabled or to have to care for someone who is you'll have those rights too and I don't suppose you'll refuse the assistance they provide. As for the "caucasian,heterosexual,long suffering,non complaining male", presumably your belief is that they're immune from disability or a life of caring for others. Presumably they never do anything which incurs a net cost for anyone else - I mean there's no such thing as the "ordinary caucasian,heterosexual,long suffering,non complaining male" who leaves his wife and family, fails to support them and in so doing forces the taxpayer to provide.... Course not.....


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We didnt hear from the child's father on the BBC news..?

and your point is?????........... Presumably he's also an "ordinary caucasian,heterosexual,long suffering,non complaining male".
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Re: Disabled rights to be strengthened? Let's hope so!

I had a very understanding employer, so was able to reduced my work hours enabling me to look after my parents who were both dying from lung cancer (they both had been smokers). I worked all the shifts no-one else wanted, very early mornings, late nights and weekends so I could be there during the day. Six years of 24/7/365, I'm not complaining, I did what I had to do. Spare a thought for those who are still out there doing it right now.
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.......and how this country relies on people like you.
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Speaking for my own work environment, If i have to provide work cover for a person who is off sick,i get paid a proportion of their salary (pro rata) and they loose it. Simple as that.
do u get a proprtion of their illness/dissabilty as well? whats the company called "bloodsuckers anonymous" vlad ?
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