Who Will Win? Sky or Virgin?

[hardtarget]

Like the title says,
But i reckon it will be us customers who will win as prices will be slashed as they both compete
This may be exagerating it but who knows they both might go as far as completely making their services free :-)

Shouldn't think so, as out of last year's Sky revenue of £4 billion, customer revenue was £2.85 billion (annualised average revenue per DTH subscriber for the final quarter of the year was £388, for 8.18 million subscribers).

I can't see them giving up 71% of their revenue stream (especially as they have just announced the possibility of subscription Freeview channels, if that's not an oxymoron).

[Martyn]

sky can pull there channels from ntl virgin or what ever the crap is called, so why would people want ntl,virgin? since sky channels are VERY popular, and is one of the main reasons we signed up for ntl, so long ago.

[walfordking]

Who wants a ugly sky dish outside their property? If you're in rented property then you can't have sky dish without the landlords permission first. You can have cable thou.

[awibble]

and virgin can pull the channels they have control over from Sky.

Well actually they carnt, they have to try and provide each other the channels at a reasonable cost, which is why they are in negociations at the moment,

[Toto]

Originally Posted by Martyn

sky can pull there channels from ntl virgin or what ever the crap is called, so why would people want ntl,virgin? since sky channels are VERY popular, and is one of the main reasons we signed up for ntl, so long ago.

Martyn, Sky are rattled. Threats to "pull" channels shows that they are concerned that now, more than ever, they have a fight on their hands. It may still be ntl / Telewest under the wrapper, but thinga are changing, and changing for the better.

Ultimately though, the winners are the great British public. To quote a phrase from days gone by - "We have never had it so good".

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by walfordking

Who wants a ugly sky dish outside their property? If you're in rented property then you can't have sky dish without the landlords permission first. You can have cable thou.

heh I think the technical aspect is more important then how my house looks besides my dish is on the chimney.

My tenancy agreement forbids sattelite but I had it done anyway, most landlords just turn a blind eye if the rent keeps coming in.

sky are defenitly shaken with the free sky+ coming soon etc.

My sky+ box which was installed yesterday I noticed tho is much less responsive then a standard sky digi box and it occasionally split second freezes like it has no power to process the signal.

I think there will be a market for both Sky and Virgin Media. Yesterday I saw an interview with Steve Burch from Virgin Media and he gave great weight to the multi offerings. He said that when they launched the 3 for £30 it was laughed at within the industry. Over 40% of Virgins customer base is on triple play and all the others like Sky/BT/Carphone are following. The quad play will give Virgin Media another offering which is bound to be attractive to a lot of people (a single supplier for multi services). We will have to wait and see who actually comes out on top. My money is on none as there seems to be a large sector of the population who will not use any one of the above company's.

[awibble]

wonder when they will do electric, gas, water, insurace etc etc so i can just pay 1 bill a month.

Originally Posted by awibble

wonder when they will do electric, gas, water, insurace etc etc so i can just pay 1 bill a month.

God!!!!! imagine what CS would be like.

[awibble]

Originally Posted by pachelbel

God!!!!! imagine what CS would be like.

No worse than thames water, Trust me!!!

[HDFootyMan]

Originally Posted by awibble

wonder when they will do electric, gas, water, insurace etc etc so i can just pay 1 bill a month.

Water. On Demand.

Its not Virgin vs Sky its Branson vs Murdock

[Chrysalis]

of course there is room for both as cable tv is below 50% of the country and seeing as virgin media dont seem to have any plans to fix the anlogue problem taking away the analogue tv areas which are far from competitive its probably below 45%. When they expand over LLU I would be surprised if they can do any type of tv service over it.

[HDFootyMan]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Its not Virgin vs Sky its Branson vs Murdock

Before long its gonna be Sky vs Virgin vs BT Vision vs Freeview vs Sky's DTT vs Homechoice vs Xbox 360 IPTV.

Its gonna get crowded.