04-08-2003, 19:56
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ok lets see whee this goes, and if it offends anyone i apollogise however im angry and it dosent effect me (much).
my brother worked for a fairly well known company (not gonna say who but yourd know em trust me) as a temp, hes been there for 3 months and gets on well with the guy that runs the whole fiasco.
at no point had theye ever showed any sign of unhappyness then they train someone else up (without elling him) and tell him today he wont be there tomrrow and without giving any further information the guy goes home!  he does not even know who, how, what where or why and the ordasity of the bloke he then makes him stay to time!
i mean come on any one else got stories like this?
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04-08-2003, 20:03
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happens all the time mate , the problem is when you are temp you cannon fodder , dont suppose the other bloke was his mate by any chance do you , from experience that is quite often the case , if you could find out you might be able to go higher up the chain of command and see if you could do anything , but somehow i doubt it , sorry 
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04-08-2003, 20:21
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I'm afraid that is exactly why companies use temps. They are more expensive per hour than when you hirse someone youself, but you can sack them on the spot without giving a reason...
I can understand your anger, but yes, it happens all the time.
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04-08-2003, 20:59
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04-08-2003, 21:06
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well all i can say is its taking the saying "its only business" a little to far, they really dont care about employees do they.
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04-08-2003, 21:20
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temporary positions are that temp so you cant really moan when they intend to let you go although i would expect them to give you some notice but if they dont need you on yer bike just look for something perm if your that bothered about getting a job or talk to them about it prior to accepting a job ie what timeframe will the job last etc
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04-08-2003, 21:28
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If you are employed as a temp for longer than 12 weeks, you can argue that there is a full time posistion available and asked to taken on full time. This means holiday entitlement, sickness benefit , higher employer contributions towards tax & insurance. All in all more money for the employer to pay out.
Simple solution is to have a constant turn over of temps every 12 weeks. Sucks don't it.
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04-08-2003, 21:42
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Im a temp at the moment, due to going college after the summer.. Thing is, thats exactly what it is "temp..
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04-08-2003, 21:52
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After someone's worked three month, the decent thing to do for the business is to give some notice. Unfortunately, a lot of businesses are not decent. They are within their rights though...
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04-08-2003, 21:54
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Quote:
Originally posted by Steve_NTL
Im a temp at the moment, due to going college after the summer.. Thing is, thats exactly what it is "temp..
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yep thats what i meant
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Originally posted by danielf
After someone's worked three month, the decent thing to do for the business is to give some notice. Unfortunately, a lot of businesses are not decent. They are within their rights though...
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its the way it is not all businesses look after there employees its all about profit margins though i agree notice SHOULD have been given........
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04-08-2003, 22:40
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ntlrebel said
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If you are employed as a temp for longer than 12 weeks, you can argue that there is a full time posistion available and asked to taken on full time.
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We have tried that, but when they are getting over £30 an hour as temps they are not even interested in a £30K a year job.
These guys are running their own limited companies and making full use of the tax perks/fiddles available to them, they are paying hardly any tax!
And no we can't find suitable permanent people, not for the want of trying though 
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04-08-2003, 22:45
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Originally posted by Escapee
ntlrebel said
We have tried that, but when they are getting over £30 an hour as temps they are not even interested in a £30K a year job.
These guys are running their own limited companies and making full use of the tax perks/fiddles available to them, they are paying hardly any tax!
And no we can't find suitable permanent people, not for the want of trying though
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What temps get £30/h????
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04-08-2003, 22:53
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Nurses for example....
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04-08-2003, 22:54
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Originally posted by leeswin
ok lets see whee this goes, and if it offends anyone i apollogise however im angry and it dosent effect me (much).
my brother worked for a fairly well known company (not gonna say who but yourd know em trust me) as a temp, hes been there for 3 months and gets on well with the guy that runs the whole fiasco.
at no point had theye ever showed any sign of unhappyness then they train someone else up (without elling him) and tell him today he wont be there tomrrow and without giving any further information the guy goes home! he does not even know who, how, what where or why and the ordasity of the bloke he then makes him stay to time!
i mean come on any one else got stories like this?
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Was he temping for an agency? If so, the agencies have been known to charge a hefty "introduction fee" for any company that takes on one of their temps. I don't know what it is now, but when I was temping (about 10 years ago) Brook Street charged 18% of the first year's salary.
I temped @ British Rail, and was told I would have been given the job if I weren't a temp, because of this reason.
I was actually given notice that I would be kicked out, but only because I had been asked to train my replacement...
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04-08-2003, 23:01
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Nurses for example....
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Then why doesn't ewverybody go into nursing?
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No reason was given and I had to ring them up to try and get another position to which I was told that they would not be finding me one. Still not explanation given 
