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Old 06-05-2004, 10:55   #1
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making the jump to linux
ok im currently using windows xp but i'm feeling brave and fancy having a dabble around in linux. can anyone recommend any particular clients etc? i know a few people use red hat here at uni but was just wondering what other people thought, whats the best in their opinion etc etc
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Re: making the jump to linux
I personally like LFS (Linux from Scratch), Gentoo and Slackware, but these aren't really suitable for first time use as you have to do a lot of configuration the old fashioned way (command line editing).

Mandrake is good for newcomers, as are Suse and Redhat, redhat have just announced that they will be releasing a new desktop version next month and it sounds like it's got a lot of improvements so you could wait for that.
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Re: making the jump to linux
Heya!

I felt brave and put red hat on one of my pcs a few months ago. The installation was easy enough... but getting red hat to do anything.. that's another matter altogehter! :pp

I was thinking of switching to mandrake or suse sometime soon, as I've been told they are best for 'newbies'... I have real problems with red hat's installer program, called a 'package manager' (or rpm, for redhat package manager)... it installs things all well and good, but has a habit of not creating links in the desktop menu to the programs you install, and with the vastly different filestructure in linux, it can get really frustrating very quickly when you are trying to run things!

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Use Mandrake 10.
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Old 06-05-2004, 13:05   #5
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Re: making the jump to linux
ok someone on our dc++ hub is sharing red hat 9.... ill give that a whirl...wish me luck
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Old 06-05-2004, 13:34   #6
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ok someone on our dc++ hub is sharing red hat 9.... ill give that a whirl...wish me luck
Good luck, any probs just ask

Not sure what type of stuff you need to run but here's a list of some good basic software:

OpenOffice - IMO a lot better than MS Office

Ximian Evolution - Excellent mail client and personal information manager, has the same look'n'feel as MS Outlook so it's easy to get started

Mozilla Firefox for web browsing of course

On the matter of Gnome vs KDE when you get that option, it doesn't matter too much which one you select but I think KDE is slightly better for new users as it's more like MS Windows
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Re: making the jump to linux
I had a lot of trouble getting generic hardware devices working in RH (on board sound on generic MB/generic modem/lan card), but a friend of mine recommended Suse for good hardware compatibility.

What you really want to use is what is called a "Live" cd. Basically it is a copy of Linux on a CD. You boot into it, and you can use Linux straight away without having to create partitions, install it, etc, and you can just take the disk out and boot back into windows. Perfect for seeing if you like Linux without changing your system at all. Suse do a live CD too.
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Re: making the jump to linux
bounce bounce...

ok i have redhat 9 installed, went mainly without a hitch. except ny network card wasn't supported so that was being a git. repeatedly changing in between windows and gnome to install the drivers...

...oh, and inspiron 1100 graphics problems. resolved relatively painlessly with a dell bios update so i can actually assign more than 1mb graphics memory...

think i have finally got the hang of rpm and .tar.gz files now though .

anyway... all i really want to know is, does anyone know of any good MSN messenger and Direct Connect software? aside from using firefox and open office this is what i will mainly be using...

so, any recommendations?
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Hmm... I forget the name of it now but there is a client which can connect to all of the IM networks.
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Hmm... I forget the name of it now but there is a client which can connect to all of the IM networks.
GAIM, it was probably installed alongside Gnome, the only problem is that haven't MS stopped any non MS Messenger clients connecting to their network?
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GAIM, it was probably installed alongside Gnome, the only problem is that haven't MS stopped any non MS Messenger clients connecting to their network?
Trillian connects just fine to MSN, so I`m sure that there will be other clients that are able to connect as well.
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What you really want to use is what is called a "Live" cd. Basically it is a copy of Linux on a CD. You boot into it, and you can use Linux straight away without having to create partitions, install it, etc, and you can just take the disk out and boot back into windows. Perfect for seeing if you like Linux without changing your system at all. Suse do a live CD too.
THG were saying good things about Knoppix a few weeks back.

http://www.knoppix.com/

Got the CD sitting here, just need to get around to giving it a try.
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Mandrake do a CD only version too.
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OpenOffice - IMO a lot better than MS Office
Tried OpenOffice myself and while its good for well nothing Office 2003 knocks it out
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