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Originally Posted by bongman_uk
I dont like ADSL.
Cable modems are ALWAYS connected, unlike ADSL modems.
ADSL still seems like dialup to me (apart from the speeds)
ADSL still uses the same old copper wires as 56k does!
but its a matter of opinion
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Never heard of ADSL routers then
I don't know many people at all who have an ADSL modem that dials on demand now, ISPs tend to give out routers for free. Attach to phone line, enter the username and password, it connects and stays connected barring a fault.
Ah wires. So you've no problem with using the same coax that transmits analogue TV and is 20 years old in some areas, but it's bad to have phone service and internet sharing the same cable. I'm sure people on 100Mbit VDSL2+ over twisted copper pairs are most upset.
Cable has no better pings than I do on my DSL to be honest. I don't see anyone on cable here who pings the Beeb in 6 - 7ms. My DSL is however unbundled so is not representative of BT Wholesale DSL. BT Wholesale DSL will indeed ping slightly higher than some ntl areas.
I get the feeling you've never used DSL. I have used both DSL and cable, and worked for DSL and cable companies over the past 6 years and would like to think I can supply a balanced view of the two technologies.
OP go to
http://www.samknows.com and enter your details there, see what's available to you in terms of DSL services. Some offer much better value for money than the standard price ntl, and if you are close to the exchange and Be or UKOnline / Easynet is available you could get over 20Mbit for less than £30 / month.
If you don't mind giving them your phoneline and Bulldog is available to you you could get a similar speed from them for a similar price.
Just to address another point I'm guessing as you referred to ADSLMax that you were talking about just general DSL using a BT line, however if you weren't and were referring to using BT Broadband it probably isn't the best plan there are far better DSL deals available so I wouldn't really bother with that one.
Research your options with Samknows, there
are DSL options that give more bang for the buck than ntl's cable packages, it's just a case of if they are available to you, in addition to this if customer service and technical support quality are an 'issue' it's a reason to be hesitant about taking ntl and some DSL ISPs. Browsing forums such as
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk will give you an idea of CS quality.
The quality of service available on both sets of services can vary from region to region and exchange to exchange. On cable someone down the road could have an impeccable service while yours is dire, likewise on DSL from area to area the quality of service offered varies. LLU services tend to have a better quality of service than BT ones.
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Originally Posted by RealDiamond
Yep Most Adsl uses the same crap network of BT so it doesnt matter who you buy from. BT controlls the speed due to it being thier WIRE.
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That's incorrect BT only have control over speeds on their wholesale DSL, unbundled lines are only limited by line quality and line length. As OP is pretty close to the exchange those shouldn't be a problem.