Slow speeds in Burnley on 2mb?

dubaloo · 12-11-2005, 20:53

Hi, Im on 2mb ntl broadband via ethernet and a Samsung STB. I've done the usuall rounds of virus check/port check ect, and i've been having poor speeds over the last 3 days or so. Even downloading is slow from game demo sites and most sites are very slow to load.

I looked at a thread on here a few moments ago and its taking 12 seconds to load when its bad!

I'm wondering if anybody around or in Burnley is having the same slow speeds. If it carries on looks like a call to CS..

Here are a few traceroutes:

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.125]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 42 ms 34 ms 54 ms 10.110.0.1
2 26 ms 25 ms 15 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan42-112.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.177]
3 22 ms 15 ms 10 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-012-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.242.201]
4 40 ms 41 ms 46 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]
5 * 44 ms 38 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
6 54 ms 52 ms 29 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]
7 * 40 ms 53 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
8 49 ms * 47 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
9 50 ms 90 ms 37 ms 212.58.238.189
10 34 ms 29 ms 31 ms 212.58.238.133
11 36 ms 40 ms 62 ms www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.125]
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:32:28 UTC
1st 128K took 2690 ms = 48726 Bytes/sec = approx 405 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 830 ms = 157918 Bytes/sec = approx 1314 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1870 ms = 70092 Bytes/sec = approx 583 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 770 ms = 170223 Bytes/sec = approx 1416 kbits/sec
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:38:57 UTC
1st 128K took 13240 ms = 9900 Bytes/sec = approx 82 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 930 ms = 140938 Bytes/sec = approx 1173 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1320 ms = 99297 Bytes/sec = approx 826 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 13790 ms = 9505 Bytes/sec = approx 79 kbits/sec
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:42:30 UTC
1st 128K took 33070 ms = 3963 Bytes/sec = approx 33 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 4010 ms = 32686 Bytes/sec = approx 272 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 4120 ms = 31814 Bytes/sec = approx 265 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1150 ms = 113976 Bytes/sec = approx 948 kbits/sec
Cheers

th'engineer · 12-11-2005, 21:11

just done a trace from north manc so might be a problem with the oldhan router to manc core similar results
report it to NTL
Target Name: www.bbc.net.uk
IP: 212.58.224.89
Date/Time: 12/11/2005 22:08:17
1 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms [192.168.123.254]
2 15 ms 8 ms 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms 12 ms 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms [10.23.48.1]
3 7 ms 6 ms 10 ms 6 ms 86 ms 8 ms 6 ms 10 ms 8 ms 82 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-v115.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.61]
4 7 ms 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms 12 ms 8 ms 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 8 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.242.41]
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms 8 ms 12 ms 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.241]
6 11 ms 29 ms 8 ms 9 ms 11 ms 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms lee-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.194]
7 9 ms 22 ms 18 ms 18 ms 9 ms 10 ms 21 ms 17 ms 14 ms 10 ms lee-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.185]
8 18 ms 17 ms 15 ms 19 ms 14 ms 20 ms 19 ms 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]
9 14 ms 18 ms 34 ms 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms 16 ms 20 ms 14 ms lee-bb-b-atm010-211.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
10 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 18 ms 19 ms 14 ms 21 ms 13 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
11 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms 20 ms 21 ms * 20 ms [212.58.238.129]
12 16 ms 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 24 ms 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms www52.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.89]

dubaloo · 12-11-2005, 21:15

Lol, it seems all over the place here with different hops borking out :

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.113]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 32 ms 25 ms 21 ms 10.110.0.1
2 22 ms * 23 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan42-112.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
4.177]
3 38 ms 42 ms 29 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-111-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.205]
4 46 ms 69 ms * man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]
5 32 ms 38 ms 32 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
6 33 ms 63 ms 37 ms win-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.162]
7 33 ms 27 ms 40 ms bre-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.197]
8 * 42 ms * redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
9 36 ms 36 ms 31 ms 212.58.238.189
10 25 ms 41 ms 27 ms 212.58.238.133
11 41 ms 28 ms 39 ms www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.113]

johnnyposs · 12-11-2005, 21:21

I am in burnley, seemed slow a few days ago so i changed my proxy, have you tried changing yours.

dubaloo · 12-11-2005, 21:32

Yep sure have, just seems the same, even downloading from EA games ftp, im only getting around 50k, other sites are at the most 120k, I should be getting 245-250kps.. like it has been since the 2mb upgrade rolled out.

Here is a test on the Swansea 5

Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:32:17 UTC
1st 128K took 2810 ms = 46645 Bytes/sec = approx 388 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1640 ms = 79922 Bytes/sec = approx 665 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1870 ms = 70092 Bytes/sec = approx 583 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1210 ms = 108324 Bytes/sec = approx 901 kbits/sec

If it dosent improve i'll give CS a call tomorrow

Cerberus · 12-11-2005, 21:46

*Off Topic*

Up The Clarets

Sorry just had to say hello to the Burnley peeps seen as I left there 5 years ago and I still miss the place.

*On Topic*

Also my Uncle is on NTL 2mb down there and he is reprting slow speeds. He rung me and told me about it asking for my advice. I told him to call CS. Seems like a bit of a problem down there.

dubaloo · 12-11-2005, 21:46

I've just tried downloading from my webspace also, I'm hosting a few tracks for my good buddy and his band, and the download speed is terrible

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Hey maybe you know the local band

Cerberus · 12-11-2005, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubaloo

I've just tried downloading from my webspace also, I'm hosting a few tracks for my good buddy and his band, and the download speed is terrible

Hey maybe you know the local band

Wouldn't know the band but your speed definately doesn't look good. I take it you have obviously checked for spyware etc.

johnnyposs · 12-11-2005, 22:08

I am on the 1 MEG speed because i am still using a pace STB.
Mine seem fine.
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:06:00 UTC
1st 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1063 ms = 123304 Bytes/sec = approx 1026 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1063 ms = 123304 Bytes/sec = approx 1026 kbits/sec

johnnyposs · 12-11-2005, 22:59

Sorry for double post, try configuring your network card to half duplex instead of auto.(if yours is on auto).

dubaloo · 13-11-2005, 07:32

Hi again, well this morning seems to be an improvement!, all seems back to normal for the moment.. Maybe it goes slow when the network gets buisy?.. Im clean of spyware ect and it was on a go slow it in both win98 (which I havent had to reinstall for over 2yrs! maybe the record!??)

and win2k, but thanks for the replies

i'll keep my eye on it just incase it was temporary before I call CS.

Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:26:30 UTC
1st 128K took 500 ms = 262144 Bytes/sec = approx 2181 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 550 ms = 238313 Bytes/sec = approx 1983 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 550 ms = 238313 Bytes/sec = approx 1983 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 550 ms = 238313 Bytes/sec = approx 1983 kbits/sec

Chrysalis · 13-11-2005, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by th'engineer

just done a trace from north manc so might be a problem with the oldhan router to manc core similar results
report it to NTL
Target Name: www.bbc.net.uk
IP: 212.58.224.89
Date/Time: 12/11/2005 22:08:17
1 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms [192.168.123.254]
2 15 ms 8 ms 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms 12 ms 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms [10.23.48.1]
3 7 ms 6 ms 10 ms 6 ms 86 ms 8 ms 6 ms 10 ms 8 ms 82 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-v115.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.61]
4 7 ms 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms 12 ms 8 ms 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 8 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.242.41]
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms 8 ms 12 ms 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.241]
6 11 ms 29 ms 8 ms 9 ms 11 ms 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms lee-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.194]
7 9 ms 22 ms 18 ms 18 ms 9 ms 10 ms 21 ms 17 ms 14 ms 10 ms lee-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.185]
8 18 ms 17 ms 15 ms 19 ms 14 ms 20 ms 19 ms 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]
9 14 ms 18 ms 34 ms 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms 16 ms 20 ms 14 ms lee-bb-b-atm010-211.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
10 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 18 ms 19 ms 14 ms 21 ms 13 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
11 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms 20 ms 21 ms * 20 ms [212.58.238.129]
12 16 ms 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 24 ms 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms www52.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.89]

Wow your ubr is good nice low stable ms numbers, what tool you used to get that output?

1 19 ms 9 ms 8 ms UBR [10.8.143.254]
2 15 ms 75 ms 9 ms leic-t2cam1-a-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.149]
3 8 ms 21 ms 10 ms leic-t2core-a-ge-220-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.10]

4 21 ms 17 ms 13 ms lee-bb-a-so-220-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.110]

5 18 ms 16 ms 22 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]

6 45 ms 24 ms 58 ms lee-bb-b-atm010-211.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]

7 42 ms 20 ms 24 ms ntl-ge2-8.prt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.217]
8 17 ms 17 ms 21 ms 212.58.238.153
9 17 ms 17 ms 19 ms www52.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.89]

grubbymitts2 · 15-11-2005, 10:19

speed problems could of course be somebody using bit torrent or some such near you and maxing out their upload 24/7 thus creating a bit of a blockage. I am in Newcastle under Lyme on 2mb and I have noticed my surfing speed slowing down and speeding up erratically over the last couple of weeks especially at prime time (6 - 10pm). Clean system - no problems with download speeds from files or usenet so nothing to do but hope that the UBR (or whatever it's called) gets improved around here to handle it.Of course, it could be my browser blocking ads and crap left right and centre (using Deepnet Explorer - brilliant pop up and ad blocker), but I have a feeling it is someone close by who doesn't know how to use Bit torrent properly and wondering why they are only get 4k a second download and sharing to everyone else at 20+ (set upload to 10k dimwits - you'll get the speed. Better than that - stop using P2P crap!)I could be completely wrong of course and NTL are just ****e and ADSL really is the way to go.

jb1978 · 18-11-2005, 18:43

My web connection has slowed to a crawl. I'm in Manchester and use a silver samsung STP. Any help appreciated.

C:\Documents and Settings\john>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.164
2 * 178 ms * 10.14.112.1
3 * * 7 ms bagu-t2cam1-a-v119.inet.ntl.com [80.5.162.77]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 171 ms * 91 ms man-bb-a-so-310-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.69]

6 * 13 ms 12 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
7 154 ms * 14 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * 16 ms 17 ms redb-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.138]
10 19 ms 15 ms 20 ms 212.58.238.189
11 163 ms * * 212.58.238.149
12 79 ms 17 ms 23 ms www16.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.116]

Trace complete.

zoombini · 20-11-2005, 20:40

eee, nice to see a few more from Burnley on here...