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Digital Driving Licences
One step closer to digital ids ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkjjkjy4p8o
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Digital driving licences are to be introduced in the UK as the government looks to use technology to "transform public services".
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18-01-2025, 17:26
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
It'll probably be no good for me, as I don't have all the necessary forms of ID to get a Government Gateway ID.
The NHS Wales app is unusable for me for the same reason.
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18-01-2025, 17:39
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
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It'll probably be no good for me, as I don't have all the necessary forms of ID to get a Government Gateway ID.
The NHS Wales app is unusable for me for the same reason.
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You don’t have a driving licence?
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18-01-2025, 18:50
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
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Originally Posted by Taf
It'll probably be no good for me, as I don't have all the necessary forms of ID to get a Government Gateway ID.
The NHS Wales app is unusable for me for the same reason.
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I didn't have that problem with the England NHS app.
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18-01-2025, 19:35
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
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Originally Posted by Hugh
You don’t have a driving licence?
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I have for the past 45 years, but I don't have a passport, mobile phone contract, national ID card (?), a P60 or recent payslip, or a smartphone to make a moving video of my face (???).
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18-01-2025, 19:41
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
As usual, other countries manage things perfectly well.
If we were still in the EU, we would've had to have one anyway.
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Virtual licences are already in use in Australia, Denmark, Iceland and Norway, as well as some US states.
In the European Union, every member state is required to introduce at least one form of digital ID by 2026.
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Last edited by Paul; 18-01-2025 at 19:58.
Reason: Link removed, its the exact same story I linked to in the first post.
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18-01-2025, 20:17
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
Wonder how long it will be before there is a fake APP and spoof ids
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18-01-2025, 22:48
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
Whatever. People freely give their digital information over to corporations all the time.
Bring it on.
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18-01-2025, 22:57
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
Rightly (or wrongly) people tend to trust "corporations" more than they do governments.
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19-01-2025, 01:39
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
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Originally Posted by Taf
I have for the past 45 years, but I don't have a passport, mobile phone contract, national ID card (?), a P60 or recent payslip, or a smartphone to make a moving video of my face (???).
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If you go to a Post Office, they can validate you.
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/identit...#bf-full-width
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If you've been asked to provide proof of your identity as part of an application process, selected Post Office branches can provide these face-to-face checks for you.
You keep your original documents. We send the results of the checks to the organisation who requested them.
We're able to check a range of documents including:
Passport
Driving licence
Recent utility bills
Bank statements
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19-01-2025, 01:59
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
I got my gateway account online from just my driving licence number and national insurance number.
Then again, that was a while ago now (around 2008).
My daughter did the same (in fact I created it on her behalf) - that was in 2015.
I guess they are more strict these days ?
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19-01-2025, 10:21
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
Douglas Adams saw this coming, too:
Hence the Ident-i-Eeze. This encoded every single piece of information about you, your body and your life into one all-purpose machine-readable card that you could then carry around in your wallet, and therefore represented technology’s greatest triumph to date over both itself and plain common sense.
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It sounds like a good idea, and in a society with no profit motive - and, moreover, with no crackers - it might be doable. But in our society, i.e. what we laughingly call 'real life'...no. The words 'identity theft' spring readily to mind. In this immature society, we are not ready.
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19-01-2025, 18:19
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
Or perhaps it might be workable once quantum encryption is in place. The ultimate goal of cryptography is to create a cipher that can't be cracked even with the key. This is in fact possible in theory. A digital licence would solve a lot of problems, it's true...but ATM it would cause more than it would solve.
Few people will adopt it unless its security can be guaranteed - and given the appalling track record of governments ( any government), it's no wonder we don't trust them. Certainly I don't.
And I've just had a thought: what about the non-drivers, of whom I am one? One reason I don't drive is that the roads are dangerous enough. 
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20-01-2025, 11:04
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
I don't carry general ID with me and would never do so. I know who I am. I have work ID and other cards but I look on them as special cases to show that I work there and have access to certain doors not to prove my identity. I don't carry my driving license.
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20-01-2025, 12:30
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Re: Digital Driving Licences
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I don't carry general ID with me and would never do so. I know who I am. I have work ID and other cards but I look on them as special cases to show that I work there and have access to certain doors not to prove my identity. I don't carry my driving license.
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I still have my paper license.
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