Knife attack by a Moroccan man in French Alps

[Ramrod]

Man 'stabs French woman and her three daughters for being scantily dressed'

[Osem]

Not that long ago anyone who dared to point out that this sort of thing was likely to happen would have been called a scaremongering fantasist and far worse. Well, regardless of the motive in this case, it's happening now and our nice liberal ways are under threat from those who evidently want to benefit from them when it suits but won't tolerate them when it doesn't...

Let's hope those involved make a full and speedy recovery.

Initial reports claimed the man struck because he was angered by the women being "scantily dressed," but a local prosecutor has denied this

The mother had helped the attacker when he became ill the previous day, TF1 said.

The Moroccan-born attacker has a police record for petty crimes over the past 15 years.

I suspect that there may well be more to this than has been reported.

But it's islamaphobia time anything that can be attributed to Muslims simply must be done more so if it's negative.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

But it's islamaphobia time anything that can be attributed to Muslims simply must be done more so if it's negative.

Feel free to bury your head in the sand and bleat 'islamaphobia' but until the peaceful majority of muslims and the western liberal apopogists actually accept that islam has a huge problem with radicals, stuff like this is going to keep happening.
The first stage of tackling a problem is accepting that there is a problem and until that happens I'm going to keep highlighting it.

[Jimmy-J]

From Ramrods link

Initial reports claimed the man struck because he was angered by the women being "scantily dressed," but a local prosecutor denied this.

Raphaël Balland, prosecutor of Gap, said: "I wanted to quash the rumour currently doing the rounds because on no account did this man make such comments about the fact that the attack may have been motivated by the victims' dress code."

Even if true, he's still another religious nutter that needs putting down.

Ramrod I'm well aware of the problem and the half hearted response from the Islamic community which always makes a speech about condemning this and that but never actually does anything of measure to tackle the problem of extremism in many of it's mosques. Recognising the problem doesn't mean being happy with our media being on a hunt for negative islam angles and any incident being dragged down to the level of religion. There are other causes for things simply blaming one aspect all the time is not the right way to do things.

Perhaps before people just make statements they should spend five minutes checking a person's posts on similar subjects they would not make such statements as "Feel free to bury your head in the sand and bleat 'islamaphobia'" when I've been saying for quite a while that islam needs to get off it's backside and start doing something.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Ramrod I'm well aware of the problem and the half hearted response from the Islamic community which always makes a speech about condemning this and that but never actually does anything of measure to tackle the problem of extremism in many of it's mosques. Recognising the problem doesn't mean being happy with our media being on a hunt for negative islam angles and any incident being dragged down to the level of religion. There are other causes for things simply blaming one aspect all the time is not the right way to do things.

Perhaps before people just make statements they should spend five minutes checking a person's posts on similar subjects they would not make such statements as "Feel free to bury your head in the sand and bleat 'islamaphobia'" when I've been saying for quite a while that islam needs to get off it's backside and start doing something.

Where do you think all the intelligence comes from, magic or Muslims reporting fellow Muslims for radical behaviour and who do you think bares the brunt of radical islam the west or Muslims, Al queda and isis have killed many many more Muslims than they have westerners

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Perhaps before people just make statements they should spend five minutes checking a person's posts on similar subjects they would not make such statements as "Feel free to bury your head in the sand and bleat 'islamaphobia'" when I've been saying for quite a while that islam needs to get off it's backside and start doing something.

Good. In which case I apologise to you. Sorry

Actually The Daddy most intelligence is coming from electronic sources and in relation to the UK undercover officers of both police and security services are providing far more then is coming from the Muslim community. In the last 15 years most police forces with a large Muslim community have tried to improve relations and cultivate an environment where by the Muslim community can interact but it has at best had limited success.

Muslims have always killed more of each other then us the factional infighting is one of the things that prevents them being far more effective and long may it continue to be honest. Whether we like it or not our tolerance and traditional welcoming of immigrants has created a problem and for too long we have allowed people to come to the UK form and grow their own insular communities with little to zero effort to integrate and we've allowed it. There are sizable groups within those communities who despite being here for years decades in some cases still cannot speak English and expect everything to be presented to them in their own language something that costs a considerable amount of money annually.

Contrary to modern wisdom it isn't racist to raise or have these concerns it's actually normal and should be addressed and the communities in question need to start doing things themselves to ease the problem instead of their traditional response of expecting everyone else to change and accept it. By modern standards perhaps I am a racist but the conflict is back in the mid to late eighties I was physically fighting with national front supporters and defending physically attacks on members of the communities. Those communities still have the same level of integration and interaction with people outside of their community now as they did then nothing has changed.

How long is long enough for people to be a real part of this country to integrate and adapt to it's values and to view this country as theirs and if they are not prepared too then perhaps here is not where they belong. As I get older I am less tolerant and I no longer make the excuses I did in the past because I believe the UK is a great country and what it stands for at it's core are good and true values that are worth the little effort it takes to hold true. I now expect everyone living here to either accept that or leave but the days of constantly criticising this country and in some quarters hating it while taking advantage of all the plus points of being here should now come to an end we're worth more then that.