Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | OMG

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs

Interpreters for non English Speakers
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 14-02-2013, 21:45   #1
007stuart
cf.addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow
Services: TIVO V6 Meg Service TV XL Virgin Phone Home & Mobile My wife says I have too many SONOS units
Posts: 436
007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute
Interpreters for non English Speakers

At the moment should a person that is unable to speak or understand English can request an interpreter at no cost to themselves when dealing with likes of the NHS, Local Authorities etc.

Given the level of cuts we are enduring should these services cease to be funded by the state?
007stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 14-02-2013, 21:52   #2
mertle
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,134
mertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quadsmertle has a fine set of Quads
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Its grey area to be fair it all depends on the reasons for interpreter. Say for criminal situation it should be as basic as providing a lawyer. Same too realistically for border controls too.

So no not as blanket thing as you could cause issues in investigations if they refused to pay for the intepreter.
mertle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 22:18   #3
007stuart
cf.addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow
Services: TIVO V6 Meg Service TV XL Virgin Phone Home & Mobile My wife says I have too many SONOS units
Posts: 436
007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Agreed to a certain extent. What about those non english speakers who have made their home here and have been resident for many years, surely these people have a responsiblity to learn english?

With the NHS do you want your taxes spent on interpreters or life saving drugs, operations or even care for the elderly?
007stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 22:19   #4
danielf
cf.mega poser
 
danielf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 16,687
danielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden aura
danielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden aura
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007stuart View Post

With the NHS do you want your taxes spent on interpreters or life saving drugs, operations or even care for the elderly?
Are you still beating your wife?
__________________
Remember kids: We are blessed with a listening, caring government.
danielf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 22:23   #5
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,619
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007stuart View Post
Agreed to a certain extent. What about those non english speakers who have made their home here and have been resident for many years, surely these people have a responsiblity to learn english?

With the NHS do you want your taxes spent on interpreters or life saving drugs, operations or even care for the elderly?
and if they don't speak English, how would the diagnosis be undertaken?
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 22:28   #6
007stuart
cf.addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow
Services: TIVO V6 Meg Service TV XL Virgin Phone Home & Mobile My wife says I have too many SONOS units
Posts: 436
007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf View Post
Are you still beating your wife?
Troll

---------- Post added at 22:28 ---------- Previous post was at 22:26 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
and if they don't speak English, how would the diagnosis be undertaken?
Charity seems to be the method of choice for people who need help nowadays.
007stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 22:33   #7
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,619
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007stuart View Post
Troll

---------- Post added at 22:28 ---------- Previous post was at 22:26 ----------


Charity seems to be the method of choice for people who need help nowadays.
would you be willing to stake your life on charitable help? I don't think "choice" would be the correct word.

And I think Daniel was pointing out your question was a little loaded?
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 22:59   #8
007stuart
cf.addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow
Services: TIVO V6 Meg Service TV XL Virgin Phone Home & Mobile My wife says I have too many SONOS units
Posts: 436
007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Re Daniel, perhaps he should say what he means rather than having you interpret for him.

Hugh, there are many resources that are available to non english speakers including free English lessons. In todays society there is no reason why someone who wishes to live here cannot make the effort to learn the main language of the uk.
007stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 23:19   #9
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,619
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

I agree anyone living in a country should try to learn the language (as I did when I lived in Germany (quite badly)), but I would hate to stake my life on it if it wasn't up to scratch.

btw, I thought danielf's point was fairly clear.
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 23:23   #10
Gary L
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,324
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf View Post
Are you still beating your wife?
Not anymore. she left me.

I think just leave it as it is. a lot of them are on the end of the phone line, and volunteers anyway.
Gary L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 23:31   #11
danielf
cf.mega poser
 
danielf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 16,687
danielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden aura
danielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden aura
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007stuart View Post
Re Daniel, perhaps he should say what he means rather than having you interpret for him.
Are you still beating your wife
__________________
Remember kids: We are blessed with a listening, caring government.
danielf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 23:38   #12
007stuart
cf.addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Glasgow
Services: TIVO V6 Meg Service TV XL Virgin Phone Home & Mobile My wife says I have too many SONOS units
Posts: 436
007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute007stuart has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Hugh, re when you stayed in Germany would you have paid for an interpreter if the state would not provide one?
007stuart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 23:47   #13
Gary L
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,324
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007stuart View Post
Hugh, re when you stayed in Germany would you have paid for an interpreter if the state would not provide one?
is that for everything or just the NHS and authorities?

if it was for the police then you don't want to say anything to them anyway. it's best to keep quiet and don't tell them who you really are.

if it's for a shop then you can just point and make gestures, like some foreigners do over here.

for everything else you can just show them your money and point at them.

Actually I suppose you mean for the NHS and stuff if you say if the state would not provide one. and I'd say that they wouldn't refuse treatment just because you're not willing to pay to translate details.

but Britain is becoming uncaring and stingy now. so they probably would refuse treatment and let you die in the corridor anyway.
Gary L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2013, 23:57   #14
martyh
Guest
 
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle Sky Q 2TB box Sky Q mini box Sky fibre unlimited Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007stuart View Post
Hugh, re when you stayed in Germany would you have paid for an interpreter if the state would not provide one?
Many immigrants already speak some English ,those that don't get provided an interpreter so that authorities can convey instruction to them .Most immigrants do learn to speak the language enough to get them by for their own convenience which is usually what English people do when abroad .Some of the elderly generation of immigrants don't learn our language or find it difficult to grasp such a complicated language at their time of life but they will eventually die out and be replaced by immigrants of a younger generation complete with yorkshire,geordie,scouse accents leaving us only those new immigrants that have recently entered the country to supply interpreters for ,exactly the same as if you went to a foreign country and didn't speak the language but needed help .

I read your OP and wonder if you have a grasp of the English language
  Reply With Quote
Old 15-02-2013, 00:01   #15
danielf
cf.mega poser
 
danielf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 16,687
danielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden aura
danielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden auradanielf has a golden aura
Re: Interpreters for non English Speakers

Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh View Post
<snip>

I read your OP and wonder if you have a grasp of the English language
Read the member profile:

Quote:
Location: Glasgow
(That's a joke Stu...)
__________________
Remember kids: We are blessed with a listening, caring government.
danielf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:21.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum