Sky and tiscali

[gadge]

seems tiscali have signed up for skys basics.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1#post15724511

[MovedGoalPosts]

Moved from Virgin Media General Discussion to Other ISPs

[cimt]

Some good points in that thread about how much they paid. I wonder if they did pay anywhere near Sky wanted VM to pay...

[Stuart]

Probably nowhere near what Sky asked VM to pay. After all, Tiscali/Homechoice only covers a relatively small area of the country (the South East mainly), and they have a relatively small number of cutstomers.

[brundles]

However the price worked out, I suspect that the overall deal was much better for Tiscali than VM. Tiscali hadn't just lost a ton of income from being stitched up by Sky a couple of months earlier for a start!

Not to mention that Sky hardly see Tiscali as a competitor so will be much more generous during negotiations - especially as they will try and use this as a show case for other IPTV operators.

[Media Boy UK]

Details of the deal made between Sky and Tiscali TV have been revealed, showing that Tiscali were happy to pay what Virgin Media wasn't for the carriage of Sky's basic channels on the IPTV platform.

Earlier this week, Sky filed its defence at the High Court as part of its legal battle with Virgin Media, after Virgin refused to pay the amount Sky wanted for carrying its basic channels, disputing the cost as "anti-competitive." Sky One, Two, Three, News and Sports have not been shown on the Virgin Media cable platform since the end of February.

The Tiscali deal was agreed on June 27 at a price reported to be "broadly similar" to the offer Sky made to Virgin Media on May 10.

Reports suggest IPTV provider Tiscali paid 81.5p per subscriber, equivalent to £335.7 million annually. This works out slightly more per customer than Virgin Media, as Tiscali has 50,000 customers, while Virgin Media has 3.4 million.

Additionally, Sky has agreed new carriage deals for its basic channels with regional cable operators Newtel, Smallworld and Wightcable. Outside of the Virgin Media network, the operators cover Jersey, the Borders and the Isle of Wight.

Mike Darcey, chief operating Officer, Sky, said: “Sky has always sought to achieve wide distribution for its channels and we’re pleased to extend our relationships with three valued and long-standing partners. All three have recognised the increasing value of Sky’s basic channels and we welcome their decision to invest in bringing their customers the TV they enjoy.”

Info from Digital Spy.

[sgorge]

For TV to work over broadband service providers need to seriously improve their bandwith and stability (unless they send it at very poor quality) or you are watching it in a small window on your PC. But for a 40" telly this won't be any good. TV needs to be send real-time and not just streamed and buffered. No good having the six oclock news start at 6.02. I cannot see this becoming mainstream any time soon so I don't understand why Tiscaly would fork out for this!

[dragon]

Originally Posted by sgorge

For TV to work over broadband service providers need to seriously improve their bandwith and stability (unless they send it at very poor quality) or you are watching it in a small window on your PC. But for a 40" telly this won't be any good. TV needs to be send real-time and not just streamed and buffered. No good having the six oclock news start at 6.02. I cannot see this becoming mainstream any time soon so I don't understand why Tiscaly would fork out for this!

Actually I think most of these IPTV services use QOS and reserved bandwidth to maintan stablity.

I know btvision reserves around 1.5mbit/s downstream for the vod while its in use and also uses the Homehub uses QOS to priortise the vision packets going on the upstream (afaik)

I would guess its probably the same for these other services, after all if the service is run by the ISP then they can setup QOS at their end if they so desire and issue you with their own router that can do it at your end.

[buckleb]

Originally Posted by TV Boy

Details of the deal made between Sky and Tiscali TV have been revealed, showing that Tiscali were happy to pay what Virgin Media wasn't for the carriage of Sky's basic channels on the IPTV platform.

Earlier this week, Sky filed its defence at the High Court as part of its legal battle with Virgin Media, after Virgin refused to pay the amount Sky wanted for carrying its basic channels, disputing the cost as "anti-competitive." Sky One, Two, Three, News and Sports have not been shown on the Virgin Media cable platform since the end of February.

The Tiscali deal was agreed on June 27 at a price reported to be "broadly similar" to the offer Sky made to Virgin Media on May 10.

Reports suggest IPTV provider Tiscali paid 81.5p per subscriber, equivalent to £335.7 million annually. This works out slightly more per customer than Virgin Media, as Tiscali has 50,000 customers, while Virgin Media has 3.4 million.

Additionally, Sky has agreed new carriage deals for its basic channels with regional cable operators Newtel, Smallworld and Wightcable. Outside of the Virgin Media network, the operators cover Jersey, the Borders and the Isle of Wight.

Mike Darcey, chief operating Officer, Sky, said: “Sky has always sought to achieve wide distribution for its channels and we’re pleased to extend our relationships with three valued and long-standing partners. All three have recognised the increasing value of Sky’s basic channels and we welcome their decision to invest in bringing their customers the TV they enjoy.”

Info from Digital Spy.

The article has been edited and the (rather dodgy) figures have now been removed.