5Mb bb for ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£29.99

darren · 22-02-2006, 21:34

I've got a friend who has asked me to setup his new 5MB NTL broadband connection, he has upgraded from 1MB and has had a new 250 modem installed.

NTL have given him a cd which they said he needs to run before the new speed will take effect, even though he has internet at the moment. I asked him how much he was being charged for this 5MB service I've never heard of, he says ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£29.99. I'm going round tomorrow to see it.

Whats going on, I've found no mention of 5MB on the 250 modem and having to re-register to get the new speed? I tried http://192.168.100.1 but it couldn't be found, has it being disabled on the new ones?

Graham M · 22-02-2006, 21:41

5MBit is NOT offered by NTL, there is a 1, a 2, and a 10MBit service (formerly 3MBit) and the 10MBit service is ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£34.99 and can be limited by some hardware to 5MBit(ish)

darren · 22-02-2006, 21:54

Thats what I thought, but he insists that ntl are providing 5MB at ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£29.99

Graham M · 22-02-2006, 22:31

Perhaps they're giving him a discount because his hardware cannot meet the demand but if so why aren't they giving it to everybody else? Either that or he's been completely screwed over.

darren · 22-02-2006, 22:37

They have given him a new 250 modem (the blue one) so the hardware is upto it. The engineer installed it yesterday.

southwell · 23-02-2006, 09:27

Ive had something like this before where my mate got 1.5mb BB when everyone else was on 1mb and he was paying the same amount (this was at least 6 months before i received it).

Downloads · 23-02-2006, 09:51

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Originally Posted by southwell

Ive had something like this before where my mate got 1.5mb BB when everyone else was on 1mb and he was paying the same amount (this was at least 6 months before i received it).

Perhaps (trying to think of a plausible explanation) they tested his line and due to distance from his cabinet told him he would only get 5mb and cut him a special price? Any takers..?

23-02-2006, 10:06

Nahh, best thing to do is check the config file by going to 192.168.100.1

Rufus Fook · 23-02-2006, 10:47

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Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

Perhaps (trying to think of a plausible explanation) they tested his line and due to distance from his cabinet told him he would only get 5mb and cut him a special price? Any takers..?

No, cant be that, ntl's service is not like ADSL where the bandwidth is determined by the distance from the exchange, either it works or it doesn't.

Downloads · 23-02-2006, 11:12

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Originally Posted by Rufus Fook

No, cant be that, ntl's service is not like ADSL where the bandwidth is determined by the distance from the exchange, either it works or it doesn't.

Can someone please correct me if i am wrong as i don't profess to be an expert, but when NTL brought out all their charts comparing themselves to BT, they said that on their network 95% of people were within X distance therefore NTL wouldn't suffer the same problems as BT. Wouldn't this suggest that NTL do suffer from distance problems too even though this isn't an issue for most of their customers?

Stephen · 23-02-2006, 11:22

NTL do not suffer distance problems like BT do. Simple as that. The only reason you would get less that your proper speed is due to modem/hardware issues or congestion on the network.

Downloads · 23-02-2006, 11:31

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Originally Posted by DarthYoda

NTL do not suffer distance problems like BT do. Simple as that. The only reason you would get less that your proper speed is due to modem/hardware issues or congestion on the network.

I'm not doubting you at all, i wish i could find the report as it just puzzles me why NTL wrote it like they did in their comparison to BT. They wrote something like (these are not necessarily the correct figures) 5% of BTs users are within 5km whereas 95% of NTLs users are within 5km. This does them a diservice if distance is not a factor at all? I will see if i can find the report, sure there was a link on this site some time ago.

etccarmageddon · 23-02-2006, 11:40

I suspect your friend is just mistaken - perhaps one of those people who mishears something on the phone - e.g. the bloke at NTL said it's 'upto 10mb' so sometimes you will get 5mb.

and perhaps he's one of those people who wont listen! even when you tell him you know there is no 5mb service he thinks he knows better!

Stephen · 23-02-2006, 11:41

all they are saying is that most of NTLs customers are within 5Km and BT is only 5%. They are not saying they have distance issues just that their customers are a lot closer to the network.

They are just boasting about how many of their customers compared to BT are closer to the main network, (I think it makes sense).

Downloads · 23-02-2006, 11:48

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Originally Posted by DarthYoda

all they are saying is that most of NTLs customers are within 5Km and BT is only 5%. They are not saying they have distance issues just that their customers are a lot closer to the network.

They are just boasting about how many of their customers compared to BT are closer to the main network, (I think it makes sense).

That's great thanks for clearing that up.

As an analyst though it doesn't make sense to me, i think any analyst worth their salt would rather state that 100% of their customers would see no speed loss, rather than leave a doubt in someone's mind (who doesn't understand their network like me) about the 5%. People don't read lengthy reports in their entirity they read headline stuff.

Anyway... back on topic.