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Old 18-02-2005, 09:26   #1
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Getting TV channels without NTL box?

Hi,

I have phone + BB internet (stand alone modem) with NTL but cancelled the TV subscription so have no STB.

The analogue tv reception in my area is very poor and I was wondering if there is anyway to get those channels from the NTL wall socket to pipe them to TVs in other rooms in my house without the need for an STB (i.e. through a coax aerial lead)?

I assume they are still being transmitted to the socket but that I need to mimic whatever the non-digital STB did to get the tv-out stuff - but dont know where to start

Thanks in advance
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Old 18-02-2005, 09:56   #2
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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The analogue tv reception in my area is very poor and I was wondering if there is anyway to get those channels from the NTL wall socket to pipe them to TVs in other rooms in my house without the need for an STB (i.e. through a coax aerial lead)?

I assume they are still being transmitted to the socket but that I need to mimic whatever the non-digital STB did to get the tv-out stuff - but dont know where to start
No, just plug the NTL cable into your TV and you should be able to tune in channels 1-5.

Oh, and by the way
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Old 18-02-2005, 10:05   #3
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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No, just plug the NTL cable into your TV and you should be able to tune in channels 1-5.

Oh, and by the way


Do not do that!, the TV will send interfernce back down the cable and will interfear with your other ntl services and other peoples!.

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Old 18-02-2005, 10:45   #4
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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Do not do that!, the TV will send interfernce back down the cable and will interfear with your other ntl services and other peoples!.
OK, maybe you should put a line isolator in
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Old 18-02-2005, 10:56   #5
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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Do not do that!, the TV will send interfernce back down the cable and will interfear with your other ntl services and other peoples!.

-Chris
Can't say it caused any issues for the three years I got my TV that way.

But as Bob says, if Muppet's worried about it, or if he finds his BB does suffer, he can install an isolator.
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

details on isolator? i've never needed one but would be nice to know hwere to get one.
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Old 18-02-2005, 13:45   #7
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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details on isolator? i've never needed one but would be nice to know hwere to get one.
I am not entirely certain, but I think this would do the job (and split the cable if needed):
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ce=14&doy=18m2
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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I am not entirely certain, but I think this would do the job (and split the cable if needed):
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ce=14&doy=18m2

That'll split it, but I don't think it would filter out signals going back down the cable.


Could try one of these, in addition to an F splitter - http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ldID=&doy=18m2

(not sure how appropriate it is though)


RustyMuppet - You'd also need to make sure you used good quality coax cable, not bog standard stuff. Maplin sell the right stuff - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...2&postcount=28

FT100 cable: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ldID=&doy=18m2

FT125 cable: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...ID=2&doy=24m10

Plus, the connectors must be fitted correctly. If you don't have the tools to do so, it's probably best to get a cable made up specifically (Maplin can do that for you).

Oh, & doing this is against ntl's Terms & Conditions. If you screw it up, & cause degredation of your service and/or your neighbours' services, you'd have to pay for a call out etc.
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Old 18-02-2005, 15:12   #9
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

it is sort of possible just getting a few channels out of the socket.
before once in my sister old flat we made a cable up from the socket to the tv. see was able to pick up 1-5 plus bbc news and other channels which i forgot.

but in another place she lived in it wouldn't work, it was the same tv.
so it may be possible to just plug straight in to the socket.
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Old 18-02-2005, 15:13   #10
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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That'll split it, but I don't think it would filter out signals going back down the cable.
What about the folllowing claim for the splitter?
"This splitter features low insertion loss and high return loss and isolation."
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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What about the folllowing claim for the splitter?
"This splitter features low insertion loss and high return loss and isolation."

Ah, I missed that bit
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Old 18-02-2005, 15:51   #12
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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Ah, I missed that bit
No problems, I was just looking for reassurance that it meant what I thought it meant!
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Old 18-02-2005, 16:11   #13
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

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it is sort of possible just getting a few channels out of the socket.
before once in my sister old flat we made a cable up from the socket to the tv. see was able to pick up 1-5 plus bbc news and other channels which i forgot.

but in another place she lived in it wouldn't work, it was the same tv.
so it may be possible to just plug straight in to the socket.
In the place where it wouldn't work it was probably disconnected at the cab.
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Old 03-03-2005, 13:17   #14
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

This is interesting...

I am planning on getting ntl to set me up with the basic package and as I also have duff reception in my area, I wanted to run my other tvs from ntl's signal for channels 1-5...

The woman I spoke to at NTL said this would not be possible, but are you saying it is?

Especially if i am payting for the basic package for my living room?

Thanks in advance,

J.
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Old 03-03-2005, 13:51   #15
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Re: Getting TV channels without NTL box?

BigJay!

It may be possible but it will only work for a few more years until they turn of the analogue signal.
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