Britain outside the EU

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Btw, if you were listing to R4 Today, you’d have heard Nick Robinson put the Business Secretary onto the rack and pretty much skewered him. Not bad for a BBC journo who is usually associated with lefty side of the BBC.

Are we taking about the same Nick Robinson at the BBC who was privately educated, studied PPE at Oxford, was chair of the Oxford University Conservative Association, founder of the Macclesfield Young Conservatives and national chair of the Young Conservatives?

Not a particularly left wing background to be fair!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Are we taking about the same Nick Robinson at the BBC who was privately educated, studied PPE at Oxford, was chair of the Oxford University Conservative Association, founder of the Macclesfield Young Conservatives and national chair of the Young Conservatives?

Not a particularly left wing background to be fair!

Indeed.

Anyone to the left of Nick Candy or Richard Tice seems to tick the "lefty" box for Seph. Unfortunately, that's quite a big field of runners so most media organisations save GB News and the Telegraph become lefty-dominated using this methodology.

[GrimUpNorth]

This video made me laugh - it's looking at the predictions Lord Hannan made in June 2016 about how life in the sunlit uplands of post Brexit Britain would be in 9 years time - so about now.

Cant say I have heard of Lord Hannan, but the very first prediction told me he was clearly in his own fantasy world.
We were never going to be celebrating our own "Indepenence Day" with fireworks etc.

[1andrew1]

Telegraph belatedly telling it straight on Brexit

Fewer than a third of voters would back Brexit again, poll finds

Nearly half of respondents also believe there should be another referendum on whether to rejoin EU

Fewer than a third of voters would back leaving the European Union if the Brexit referendum were held again, a new poll has found.

Just 29 per cent of people would vote to withdraw from the EU if a vote was held again compared to 52 per cent in June 2016, according to a survey for The Sunday Times.

The More in Common research also found that nearly half of respondents believe there should be another referendum on whether to rejoin the bloc.

The results represent a marked shift in attitudes towards being part of the EU less than ten years after the historic result in 2016.

Supporters of Sir Keir Starmer’s approach to restoring closer ties with European partners will see the results as a sign that the policy shift is the right move.

https://archive.ph/JUwbC#selection-3161.0-3185.72

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Telegraph belatedly telling it straight on Brexit

https://archive.ph/JUwbC#selection-3161.0-3185.72

Good luck with re-joining

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Telegraph belatedly telling it straight on Brexit

https://archive.ph/JUwbC#selection-3161.0-3185.72

IIRC, this was a poll of c. 2700 people, the randomness of which was not discussed in the article. So, a question there.

I don't want a referendum on rejoining the EU, but if it happens, so be it. It would be messy because all the pros/cons would have to be set out and at the base of it all will sit an incompetent government of any flavour (Reform wouldn't hold a Referendum).

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Good luck with re-joining

Too soon for that now but give it 10 years or so.

I think it was 52% of those who voted, not 52% of those who could vote, which seems to be what this poll is quoting.

The poll was conducted for a pro-EU lobby group called More In Common. Phrasing of questions in polls like this is crucial, as is controlling for likelihood to vote. As Paul has noted, there is a big difference between an entire electorate, and the sub-group of electors who are likely to use their vote.