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Old 05-05-2019, 21:48   #2006
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
I still think there is only one practical solution, given the opposition to TM's plan. Leave without a deal and apply the ten year protection rule provided for in WTO rules (Article 24 of the WTO's General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade). The justification would be that a pause is required to enable a comprehensive trade deal to be negotiated, and the aims of the UK and EU would be set out in that document. A plan and schedule would be required, and the plan would set out the matters to be negotiated. Since we know what we want (heaven only knows we've been negotiating with the EU for over two years now and we know what we want from a trade deal) and we know what the EU is prepared to give us, we know precisely what needs to be negotiated. The interim arrangements that would apply ahead of the eventual trade deal can be taken from the existing withdrawal agreement.

Although the WTO Article provides for a 10-year period, we would not require anywhere near that amount of time to agree a trade deal. Everything is already aligned with the EU anyway.

We would need the EU to agree to this approach, but why wouldn't they if it would ease the trading arrangements between our two countries? We could use the time between now and the new end date for leaving the EU to achieve just that.
The Article 24 is a myth as a visit to a fact-checking website shows. I'm sorry you've been taken in by this.
https://fullfact.org/europe/article-24/
https://tradebetablog.wordpress.com/...-grace-period/
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...rade-deal-myth

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
So why can't we have the same arrangement at the NI border. There you are, you see - proof you can make it work!
As Hugh's photo and the FT article show, there is a hard border in place.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
A soft Brexit isn't Brexit. That would make people very angry.
Some people would be very happy. Some would be very angry. Some would be agnostic.
Bottom line is that you need to appreciate what many have said before me - that there are many variations of Brexit and not just yours and all would qualify legally.

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Originally Posted by Angua View Post
The EU are prepared for us to leave with no deal. The threat of no deal was only any use against parliament.

Parliament voted to rule out leaving with no deal as they know how damaging it is.

No deal Brexit is not what parliament will accept, they have a better idea of how damaging this would be to the economy and the Irish border.
Model answer.
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