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Old 05-05-2019, 19:30   #1999
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Re: Brexit (New Poll Added)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I've been there too. Read the article again - there is a common travel area but try driving an HGV across and you'll appreciate the difference.
So why can't we have the same arrangement at the NI border. There you are, you see - proof you can make it work!

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
SNP and LibDems won't vote for any deal so they can be ruled out.
There is a majority in Parliament for Brexit but for a softer form of Brexit, so this may work. The fly in the ointment is the confirmatory vote which could scupper it and lead to Theresa May asking for meaningful votes on a range of possibilities leading to a potential softer Brexit deal.
A soft Brexit isn't Brexit. That would make people very angry.

Even if TM and JC agreed an approach, I think it would be scuppered by a significant number of backbench Conservative and Labour MPs who would vote against it.

I still think there is only one practical solution, given the opposition to TM's plan. Leave without a deal and apply the ten year protection rule provided for in WTO rules (Article 24 of the WTO's General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade). The justification would be that a pause is required to enable a comprehensive trade deal to be negotiated, and the aims of the UK and EU would be set out in that document. A plan and schedule would be required, and the plan would set out the matters to be negotiated. Since we know what we want (heaven only knows we've been negotiating with the EU for over two years now and we know what we want from a trade deal) and we know what the EU is prepared to give us, we know precisely what needs to be negotiated. The interim arrangements that would apply ahead of the eventual trade deal can be taken from the existing withdrawal agreement.

Although the WTO Article provides for a 10-year period, we would not require anywhere near that amount of time to agree a trade deal. Everything is already aligned with the EU anyway.

We would need the EU to agree to this approach, but why wouldn't they if it would ease the trading arrangements between our two countries? We could use the time between now and the new end date for leaving the EU to achieve just that.
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