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Old 26-06-2020, 21:00   #822
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Re: Black Lives Matter

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Would you mind telling me why the police kept him like that for 9 minutes? He complained that he could not breathe and he was not struggling. Any idiot can see that this was unreasonable force.
No idea what they were waiting for. Perhaps a simple "ok, I'll come quietly".

He complained SIXTEEN times, along with other things. How could he manage that if he was truly out of breath? The police are apparently trained to ignore all the various bogus pleas.

How much was visible to say that he wasn't struggling? Only seen head area, and he can be CLEARLY seen twisting his body and moving his right shoulder upwards, on more than one occasion.

He would've been removed from the car for his OWN safety, until he calmed down.

If all the officers involved had been non-white, would they have behaved differently? Where is the evidence that they would've? After all, 2 were non-white.

UK Association of Police Officers(ACPO) advice
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A violent or restrained detainee must not be placed in a police vehicle unsupervised. Detainees who have struggled violently should not be placed in a vehicle unrestrained.
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Where a detainee becomes violent, staff should, where practicable,
stop the vehicle, regain control and only then resume the journey; it may be necessary to call for assistance and to change to a more
suitable vehicle.
So looks like STANDARD advice to remove them from the vehicle. I've previously included examples of where people have injured themselves in the back seat of a police car. There are almost certainly many more cases out there.

How exactly do you think they should have subdued him?
Shoot him?
Use a sedative? Injection of Haldol or use chloroform?
Beat him unconscious?
There were NO options available to subdue him, so that left restraining him.

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Jodhpur DCP (West) Priti Chandra said the policeman had acted in self-defence to prevent the man from attacking him.
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A video shot in Jodhpur, shared widely on social media, drew outrage after it showed a police constable kneeling on the neck of a person for not wearing a facemask.
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The video showed Kumar aggressively resisting the policemen and engaging in a fistfight. It also showed a constable kneeling on him for a few seconds.
Chandra defended the constables’ actions, saying Prajapat man began punching the policemen as soon as they’d release him.
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