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as this is an ADSL thread, just as NTL force you to have a crappy phone line for their TV service.... perhaps I should point out that BT force you to have a phone line if you want ADSL but with NTL you have can have broadband without a phone line.

that's an area where NTL have an advantage. the people who want Broadband but dont want a home phone line.

I agree about the TV service but am shocked and disgusted :pp that this ADSL thread should be taken off topic to talk about NTL's crap TV service.