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Old 07-04-2019, 16:43   #1310
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
BIG problems with a "baby steps" approach.
1) It would be one step forward to Brexit and 2 steps forwards firmly to Remain in the future. Brexit must not be allowed to be reversed as easily as it would be.
2) Still no mechanism for ending whatever arrangement.
3) Wouldn't solve the delays at Customs. Doesn't currently solve it for the EU-Turkey Customs union.
4) Everything would be set by the EU, with us having no say whatsoever. Not that we have much of a say as it is.

With the backstop we have NO exit rights. Only what the EU allows us to have, and that would inevitably be remaining in a Customs Union against our will. Why shouldn't the DUP object to NI being treated differently.
On point 1: Once legally out, ending freedom of movement, there’s no way back in without rejoining. Rebate gone. Euro. The full bhuna. We are never going to vote for that in a referendum or a party advocating that at a general election. Remainers preferred outcome ceases to exist at this moment.

On point 2 a genuine customs union would have exit arrangements for Great Britain (but not Northern Ireland). A small price to pay, but that’s why we are where we are. Unless you want to deliver a united Ireland this is how Brexit has to work.

On point 3 would depend how closely our arrangements matched Turkey’s.

On point 4 not “everything” would be set by the EU. We can strike separate trade deals on services, which is more lucrative anyway, and common standards facilitates our trade in goods with the EU countries (which account for most of our trade in goods) anyway.

You appear to simply dislike things because they are European. A more pragmatic approach can deliver Britain the Brexit it wants in a phased approach. There’s no need for an “all or nothing” now approach, indeed an approach that is putting Brexit at risk from remainers.

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