[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Chris

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I agree that any moral system requires an anchor point, or a set of reasons *why* people should act in accordance with it. For most cultures, in most of history, some concept or other of deity usually provides that. In secularised Western Europe, vestigial attachment to those same ideas usually still lies behind it even though secularists prefer to deny this and construct alternative justifications for their moral systems. But it is still incorrect to equate secularism with lack of morality. It is possible to construct a basic, consequentialist ethical system without reference to any deity at all (not that I’d recommend doing so).

There we differ as to recommendation. Religion causes too many fights/wars/murders over which is the true deity.

Did a deity create Covid? But the design behind life seems to me to be too clever to have been mere evolution. So, to my mind, something must have designed all this - but is now dead.