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Old 04-03-2021, 19:40   #33
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Re: The future of television

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
You are indulging in casuistry....

Someone states today "I won’t drink any alcohol after today".

Next day, someone spots them having a beer, and they say "I didn’t mean immediately after yesterday!".

Sure, Jan...
No, I'm telling you how I interpret the use of the word. I accept the way you took it, but that is not how I meant it.

If I give up drinking in 2011 and my wife leaves me in 2016, someone might ask if she left because of my drinking. If I then say she left me after I had stopped drinking, that would be correct, despite the time gap.

I really don't know why you persist in trying to trip people up by reference to specific words they use. You know what they mean, so why not concentrate on the issues being debated? Accept that sometimes you read things the wrong way, or perhaps not as the author intended.

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
A very interesting technical document, but with no proposed 'switch off' date for Freeview - whether 2027, 2035, or any other date Old Boy may or may not have floated at some point in this long and meandering discussion.

As there is an ambition to eventually get high-speed data connections into every British home, IP delivery makes sense in the long run. There are various logistical challenges to overcome though, not least of which is ensuring the national grid has enough juice to power data networks that would be working exponentially harder than they do today.

And, lest we forget, if BBC One transmits its schedule over IP, with the News at 6, something with Nick Knowles at 8, drama at 9 and the news again at 10 ... that is still linear TV, regardless of what they're using to get the programme from their studio to your home.
Yes, it's still linear, but you would access it differently. That is my point.

Focussing on the 'l' word in this way is completely missing the crux of this matter.

Live (linear) programmes will be streamed. I presume you are not arguing about that.

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Something from another thread last year, but relevant to this.

The future of DTT from The House of Lords Select Committee on Communications and Digital - 1st Report of Session 2019 - published 5th November 2019.

https://publications.parliament.uk/p...muni/16/16.pdf

Pages 64-65


Their bold italics, not mine...

The relevance is that, at the moment, if you have a TV and an aerial (indoor or outdoor), you can watch Freeview TV at no extra expense, and with very little fuss (except for occasionally retuning the TV, and sometimes fiddling with the aerial if internal).

At the moment, 82% of the UK population have Broadband Access (not Internet Access, as people can have that through their smartphones) - under the IPTV delivery method (be it broadcast channels or SVOD, it's irrelevant), anyone without Broadband would be denied access to Freeview TV.

First issue, additional expense in purchasing Fixed Broadband so you can watch Freeview TV.

Next, if, like a lot of people, you have multiple TVs in your house, again, all you currently need is an aerial socket, or like me, the TVs in our bedroom and one of the other bedrooms just have a set-top aerial. If we had IP/Broadband delivered TV, people would need the wifi to be good enough, or network sockets, in those rooms.

Second issue, additional cost in setting up appropriate network/wifi connectivity to other TVs - especially in older houses with thick walls.

Then, what happens if the Broadband goes down? - no TV.
At the moment, if our Broadband goes down, we just go to the Digital channels, and carry on watching (if the programme is on Freeview, obviously). Or, over-utilisation or interference in your area could affect the quality of the programmes you are watching, due to the bandwidth being negatively affected/disrupted - remember the story late last year about a village having 18 months of slow speeds because of an old TV?

Third issue, if you lose your internet connection (or have it degraded), poor quality or no Freeview TV.
Fair enough, although the Culture Secretary is 'mooting' his idea of abolishing the licence fee in favour of a subscription, despite what that report says.

Note also that Freeview is changing to allow more on demand services.

Good point about internet going down.
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