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Old 02-11-2019, 16:52   #2437
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
1) Nothing whatsoever connected to the links in the post I was replying to.
2) Nothing whatsoever to do with benefits.
3) Nothing whatsoever to do with nonsense claim of 100,000+ deaths of people who were merely receiving benefits.
4) Not much was changed prior to 2013, after which the main changes came in, and yet.
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Professor Martin Roland Emeritus Professor of Health Services Research, University of Cambridge said: “This study suggests that a change happened to cause deaths to stop declining around 2014."
So more cuts from 2013, led to fewer deaths.
5) 2010 should be discounted from any figures, because any budgets will have been set by Labour.
6) The figures are based upon per person. If you let over 1m people in, the per person figure will go down. As the incomers were supposedly younger and more healthy, a smaller proportion of them will have needed social care. That again distorts the true per person figures.

7) Cuts started BEFORE 2010.
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Local authority spending on adult social care in England fell 8% in real terms between 2009–10 and 2016–17, but was protected relative to spending on other local authority services.
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Though funding for the Department of Health and Social Care continues to grow, the rate of growth slowed during the period of austerity that followed the 2008 economic crash. Budgets rose by 1.5 per cent each year on average in the 10 years between 2009/10 to 2018/19, compared to the 3.7 per cent average rises since the NHS was established.
As the 2009/10 figure was an 8% drop, it can be concluded that the 9 years of 2010/2011 to 2018/2019 had an average increase of 2.5%. Yet the annual average increase under Labour was 2.2%.
8) Aspects of Social Care have been devolved to councils. Makes coming up with the true budget figure more complicated.
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These new funds potentially give councils enough money to reverse by 2019–20 all the cuts that have been made to social care since 2009–10: spending in 2019–20 could be 3.2% higher than it was in 2009–10 (but still 4.8% lower per adult). This is conditional on local authorities choosing to raise the funds and using them for social care.
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