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Originally Posted by Chris
As per, you get the wrong end of the stick and proceed to beat yourself soundly with it.
Nuance is always important, but sadly it’s what you most often seem to miss. A couple of things I’ve noted as I’ve read through this thread:
1. 85% effectiveness is extremely good for any vaccine. You have no room to argue here, least of all on the basis that the number just doesn’t look good enough to you. I would have hoped we would all have learned at least this much over the past 2 years.
2. Again, with regards to nuance: Mick and Pierre are not contradicting one another, they are expressing different aspects of the problem. Monkey pox does not readily transmit from human to human and when a case is identified, good diagnostic practice would be to check for contact with infected animals first. Where it does transmit from human to human, close contact is required, and even then it doesn’t transmit easily.
3. This leads to the shibboleth surrounding this issue. Given the stigma around AIDS in the 1980s I can understand why our public health officials have been reluctant to say this aloud, but for monkeypox to transmit most readily from human to human it requires intimate contact. For it to transmit readily through a significant number of people, that is likely to be promiscuous sexual contact. Gay raves in Europe is an entirely plausible theory, though again I understand why officials are unlikely ever to say this aloud and will instead focus on highly targeted messaging to bring the outbreak under control.
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I'm not sure on point 3 based on reading this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45665821
specifically
'Are gay men at greater risk?
Although some of the cases have been seen in gay and bisexual men, anyone who comes into close contact with someone who has monkeypox could potentially get the virus.
The UK Health Security Agency has said "a notable proportion" of the recent cases in the UK and Europe have been found in gay and bisexual men "so we are particularly encouraging them to be alert to the symptoms and seek help if concerned".'
in terms of transmission
'Monkeypox can be spread when someone is in close contact with an infected person. The virus can enter the body through broken skin, the respiratory tract or through the eyes, nose or mouth.
It has not previously been described as a sexually transmitted infection, but it can be passed on by direct contact during sex.
It can also be spread by contact with infected animals such as monkeys, rats and squirrels, or by virus-contaminated objects, such as bedding and clothing.'