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Old 30-10-2019, 21:16   #1816
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
It's not the number, it's Boris and his incorrect use of it.
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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Often you seem to seek a reason why the truth cannot be correct? Just face it, he lied and lied again. This will be his undoing ...
Was it Boris?
All that a Minister or Prime Minister will ask of the civil Service is "what is the figure for X?". What interpretation is placed on that and what, if any, clarification is sought by the civil service, is not down to the asker of the question.
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Reality Check verdict: Mr Raab is right that staying in the EU would cost £1bn a month in budget payments. But his figure excludes any money the government gets back from the EU in grants for things like regional development or supporting farmers. When you factor these in, the figure comes down to about £744m a month.
But the rebate is based upon getting 66% back of the difference between what we're expected to pay and what we get back. Therefore the more we get back the less rebate there is. 66% of anything we get back is effectively directly funded by the UK, because the rebate is reduced by that 66%. Even if our net contributions were zero, 66% of the money we get back has been funded by the UK, not the EU. Therefore much more than 66% of any money we get back, has come from the UK.



The mere fact that it takes a 66% rebate to reach contributions of anything near a fair amount, shows how much we are expected to contribute. If a business was handing out 66% discounts constantly, it would be ruled that that the original base prices were unfair and excessive. The EU is planning to ditch the rebates, so it will represent our actual potential future contribution, even if it's only related to a customs union.
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