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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
And the denials aren't bit of a coincidence?
Other than the backstop, when have they ever said what proposals might be acceptable? It's always been a complete blanket no to the merest hint of a solution. Have Ireland and the EU ever said that X might be made to work? If you actually want to find a solution to something, the usual approach is either try and come up with something yourself, or at least be more supportive of other suggestions.
Because it's all noise. If you don't want a border in Ireland then:
  1. No Brexit
  2. UK stays in a Customs Union
  3. N.Ireland stays in a Customs Union

You can't simultaneously have the whole of the U.K outside of the Customs Union and no border or infrastructure in Ireland. Since all three options above are red lines then we're heading towards a border in Ireland of some sort. We can have checks away from the border but that is still a less than smooth movement between the two countries.

Personally I can see two things happening to avoid it:
  1. We agree to kick the can down the road. N.Ireland stays in the Customs Union for now. Some fudge is made on the backstop (but who knows what that is)
  2. Or, more likely, The Tories win a majority in an election and can ignore the DUP putting the backstop in the Irish sea
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