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Old 06-10-2016, 17:58   #1891
RichardCoulter
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread. Many merged.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 View Post
Merely proving you to be the liar when it suits you.
By fault or design you've twisted or misunderstood what I meant. You should be able to post without being rude.

To save you derailing a third thread regarding this, a thread about this exists:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...2#post35862202

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Originally Posted by denphone View Post
Labour were...
Sort of true, the Blair Government changed the original tests started by the Thatcher Government in 1993 when she phased out Invalidity Benefit in favour of Incapacity Benefit.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post
This isnt a tory vs labour discussion whuch you seem to be trying to turn it into.

A ruling party can change things as we are seeing now.

Also PIP was introduced by IDS, cameron and osborne. ESA was adjusted by the three also, e.g. they introduced stricter systems for those in the WAG group such as making it mandatory to go on the work programme. On the flip side tho more people were qualifying for the SG after the tories came into power. They also toughened up the WCA test which was particularly hard on those with mobility issues. PIP mobility tests have had the same treatment on mobility as well.
Totally correct.

As IDS said last Sunday, the system simply cannot cope with the constant testing and retesting of huge groups of people. Welfare Rights groups have evidence to suggest that at some points, people were being shoved into the Support Group due to time restraints and a lack of resources.

The reasoning given was that any not supposed to be in this group would be picked up on the next assessment when more time was available, but of course this never happens.

This defeats the purpose of these tests, which have caused many of our most vulnerable citizens unecessary worry and upset and, ironically, cost the taxpayer more than if they hadn't started doing this!

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