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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Ok, so the democratically elected parliament and council do get to approve directives from the commission and do get to send back directives to the commission and our Council representation has an effect. All good then!

Deluded. The "democratically elected parliament" is a sham as it represents 28 countries of significant cultural, political and historic differences. The process of electing this gravy train may follow conventional democratic lines, but there is nothing democratic about the ganging up, the groupings and the sheer intent to federalise the EU when none of the public want anything like that.

As for the Council, there is nothing democratic (nor undemocratic) about it. The members are the political leaders of the 28 countries. These are appointments to the Council, not elected to the Council; of course I have no objection to the Council - it needs to be there; but it doesn't fall into the "democratic" category. In the UK we don't elect a PM.

Perversely, it was better when there was no EU parliament - just the Commission (they were turds then) and the Council or whatever it was called then.