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Old 03-09-2019, 20:27   #2334
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
Are you claiming that things have not changed for the worse, particularly for sick and disabled people since Cameron introduced his Stricter Benefits regime?

Are you claiming that Atos are fit for purpose?

Are you claiming that thousands upon thousands of people haven't lost their lives as a result of these deliberate policies?

As we've been through before, sanctions did exist prior to this and they can be useful & appropriate to ensure compliance, but how things stand today is frankly absurd.
"thousands upon thousands"? Another example of fake news and nonsense.

Headline
Dad cries moment before suicide after Universal Credit wait left him with £4.61
But then actually read and comprehend the story.
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He was left with just £4.61 in his bank account as he waited for the benefit. As it is paid monthly in arrears there is an average five-week wait for the first payment to be received.
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Phillip Herron, 34, ended up £20,000 in debt, including payday loans with 1,000 per cent interest, and his children told their grandmother Santa hadn’t come the year before.
That much debt in less than 5 weeks?
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Phillip quit his job in a factory to look after his three children but fell behind with rent and trying to feed and clothe them.
One way or another he would've had a month's worth of money to last those 5 weeks.
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Letters at his home detailed how much debt he was in, and he had also been served an eviction notice.
Eviction notice in the space of less than 5 weeks? Unless they're just talking about a notice to quit.

There have always been delays in starting benefits. It can't be an instant thing.


All in all, nothing whatsoever to do with Universal Credit and any benefits. Yet that is what is claimed in the headline. Have I said anything that isn't true?



All too often look behind the headlines and a very different picture emerges.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
The side of the bargain isn’t to pay tax and NI, it’s to spend 35 hours a week looking for work.

If you can’t spend 35 hours looking for work when do claimants intend to work if they don’t have the time?

Jobseekers Allowance wasn’t fit for purpose. Fire off three CVs a week and get your dole. No wonder a dose of reality was a shock to the system for layabouts.
The problem is that there isn't always enough than can be done to fill 35 hours/week. Once you've checked new vacancies for the day/week, there isn't much time needed to apply for any.
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