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Old 25-09-2019, 22:24   #550
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
Hatred of Marxism and by corollary its exponents in Parliament doesn't seem unreasonable.
Marxism doesn’t exist in the UK. Democratic socialism does.

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
We could well be back here again in a few months especially since odds are it's a hung Parliament again.

Also This atmosphere is here to say either post Brexit or post Election.

I think those who believe that it'll all calm down and we'll all just pull together and get on with it after Brexit are as misguided as the people who think a Remain victory after a referendum will make it go away.

As for the Government after the election then Boris Johnson won't govern as the liberal 'one-nation' conservative we thought he might be pre-Brexit because he can't row back from this tone or approach easily. His old allies on that side of the party are against him or kicked out of the party. His allies now do not see the world that way. If Corbyn becomes PM, especially if it's in alliance with the SNP, then there will be half of this country who'll think it faces an existential threat. Scotland and Northern Ireland won't go away as issues either.

May's deal should have passed first time. Massive mistake IMO.
In that case we should do what other countries do. Election after election after election until someone can deliver one way or the other and govern.

If the UK needs to end it needs to end. No great loss. England can be England and discover it’s own identity.

I do agree though that not passing May’s deal could well be regretted by ardent remainers. I said at the time it probably gave everyone enough (except the DUP/ERG) to move on.

For entertainment only here’s Pierre and I agreeing on it.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=205

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