[Jimi]

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J

I left school in the 70's, me and a few mates, who left at the same time, all got a job at the same place. After so long I got bored and started another job right away, I got bored several times until I was finally happy with the job I found. There seemed to be loads of jobs for the taking back then, it was great.

I wouldn't like to be a school leaver now, or anyone who's out of work for that matter. It must be so difficult to cope, especially when almost every bit of news in the media is about job cuts, benefit cuts, benefit scroungers, immigrants, mass immigration, immigration, immigration and even more immigration... it has to be the most talked about subject out there.

I can only see it getting worse, there will be rioting on the streets, people will have had enough, they will have nothing to lose, no job, no money and no hope. At least in prison it's warm, you get fed, fit and educated.

I'd say the government / powers that be, know exactly what they're doing, it's as if this is what they want, they want to destroy the country.

If you're going to vote in the future, then my advice is to spoil it by voting for none of the above. I honestly find it ridiculous that there are still hundreds of thousands of people out there that will vote for the same dishonest, corrupt parties. They are laughing at us! Even UKIP, they'll all stab you in the back, and I guarantee you that whoever you vote in, you'll be calling for them to resign within a year, and all they will do is point the finger and blame the previous lot of scoundrels... Oh yeah, and the poor, working class and the disabled will carry on paying the price.

Things need to change, but I can only see a change for the better happening by the situation getting worse, ie even more suffering.

Excellent post,apart from the immigration part,many folk have left these shores seeking a better life,many have also came to the U.K. in search of a better life,is there any difference?

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Originally Posted by Chris

In matters of law, it is traditional to require proof of wrongdoing, not vice versa. That may seem inconvenient to you, but it is a protection you withdraw at your own peril because it protects you from a capricious or vindictive government just as anyone else, including those that use tax avoidance schemes.

On which point, it's very convenient of you to point to the murky end of the spectrum where HMRC should most certainly be looking to prove wrongdoing, then implying that this is the entire meaning of 'avoidance'. Tax avoidance starts with everyone who ever put money in an ISA, travels through well-worn practices such as the self-employed tradesman who buys new equipment for his business this year rather than next, to offset against his tax bill and maybe avoid going over a threshold, and winds a very long road before it ends up in the sorts of places you're pointing at.

My question is, when people post up big graphics that lump in avoidance (legal) with evasion (illegal), exactly where have they drawn the line between the avoidance they count in their figures and the avoidance they leave out? Do they leave any out at all?

I did the big graphic so that those Tories who may be of short sightedness may be able tae view it,come tae think about it,it may need tae be a bit larger methinks.