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Old 13-10-2019, 17:40   #2413
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread.

If the cases that get put in this thread as being slam dunk ones of being eligible, are anything to go by, then 99% of accepted claims are bogus. That isn't the case, but it still remains a fact that the cases in this thread are not what they seem, and that is what I keep highlighting.

Eg Link
Head of story
Quote:
A terminally ill dad whose son was murdered has been refused Universal Credit and told to find a job despite being given just months to live.
Scottish 60-year-old Michael McClelland is undergoing gruelling treatment for a brain tumour - but was told by the Department of Work and Pensions he is fit for work.
If you look further on in the story, then you find that the bit in bold never happened. He was diagnosed in July, and therefore wouldn't have been time to go through all the assessment and appeal stages. Eventually the story explains the truth, which contradicts the headline and tone of the article.
Quote:
“We thought I was getting Universal Credit but at the Job Centre Plus in Johnstone they told me I wasn’t eligible because my partner Terry works part-time.
Eventually you get to the end of the story to be told.
Quote:
The department also says it has terminal illness special rules and anyone subject to it can have their work-related requirements waived.
It added on Thursday that it had reviewed the case and Mr McClelland had been awarded the enhanced level of the mobility allowance.
Eg Link
Quote:
The shocking statistics reveal that 111,450 ESA claims were closed following the death of claimants between March 2014 to February 2017.
I pointed out that the what should be obvious fact that the claims were closed because they had died, not the other way around. They were still receiving benefits at the time of death.
Quote:
Total number of working age individuals who flowed off Incapacity Benefit/Severe Disablement Allowance (IB/SDA) or Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) andwhose date of death was at the same time, by ESA phase of claim (for ESA only). Great Britain: March 2014 to February 2017
They hadn't been turned down for benefits, as it was meant to be incorrectly inferred.

Headline
Dad cries moment before suicide after Universal Credit wait left him with £4.61
Quote:
He was left with just £4.61 in his bank account as he waited for the benefit. As it is paid monthly in arrears there is an average five-week wait for the first payment to be received.
Yet look further into the same story.
Quote:
Phillip Herron, 34, ended up £20,000 in debt, including payday loans with 1,000 per cent interest, and his children told their grandmother Santa hadn’t come the year before.
That much debt in less than 5 weeks?
Quote:
Letters at his home detailed how much debt he was in, and he had also been served an eviction notice.
Eviction notice in the space of less than 5 weeks?

The watch the TV programmes complaining about UC.
Eg Person complaining about UC, answering the front door to bailiffs seeking money for Water charges, which is twice yearly bill(ie must have had more than 6 months to save up for it), with iPhone clapped to her ear.
Person complaining about DLA/PIP assessments, refused to have one, but managed to travel all the way from Merseyside to the streets of London, to become a fake homeless beggar because he earned more money that way.
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