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Old 15-01-2022, 22:18   #2
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Re: Does Western society need a healthier dialouge/discourse regarding our relation w

Often, someone threatening suicide is crying for attention and help. It's a last resort to make someone listen - when no other options seem like they exist.

Every case of threatened, attempted or successful suicide is based on an emotional response. When emotions get involved, be it distopia, stress, anger, fear (any of the negatives), norepinephrine and cortisol inhibit ones ability to think logically. Ever had an argument and 10 minutes later you are replaying it in your head and the perfect line comes up that if you said it, it would have shut the whole thing down? Blame norepinephrine. It stops you thinking clearly and with reason. And so an emotive response (looking at you here amydala / limbic system) takes precidence.

You will likely have heard of the 'fight or flight' response. In reality, it is 'freeze, flight or fight' in that order. Suicidal cruxes hit at the 'flight' part of that pattern - before the ability to fight really kicks in, because to the victim, fighting just doesn't seem like an option they can be successful in within the situation they find themselves trying to get out of.

And so, rather than allow someone to carry out a rather permanent solution to a very temporary issue (as is most often the case with those in suicidal positions), we will always try to support that person through the toughest time of their existance. We help them see that actually, whatever the problem is, suicide is not the best way to deal with it. That suicide negatively affects an awful lot of other people who care about them deeply, and who, given the opportunity, will help them to get out of the rut they feel they are in. That death is not the only way out.

So stopping someone is not a selfish act of enslavement to squeeze every last bit of societal benefit from someone. It's about being a caring and supportive person for someone in dire need of help. It's about being a voice of reason and not emotion. To look someone in the eye and tell them you are listening, that you will be there for them and that together, you will get them through whatever issues they are facing. That it will be better. That they are loved.

Mental wellbeing affects anyone from any walk of life. From any place on earth and at any time in their life. It doesn't only affect those whom 'society' (and here I believe you are pointing a finger at the tax man) thinks can benefit from via a 9 to 5 job. Think of those people who are retired as a plain example - they no longer put in to the economy, they take out. Why would society try to stop them from suicide if it would actually mean more money left in the government's pot because they are not handing it out should they die?

I feel that your comments really show a huge misunderstanding of mental wellbeing and whom / how it affects people. A misguided and ill informed mindset. I hope you are only commenting in such a way so as to invoke responses in the thread, and that this is not actually what you believe to be the truth.
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