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Old 20-01-2017, 13:20   #3876
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
For me, that simply illustrates one of the fallacies at the heart of the remain argument, which was that the EU was still a union of sovereign states and it was false to claim British sovereignty was being impinged.

In matters of international law there is a difference between de jure and de facto. The former is the technical, legally correct position. The latter is what, practically, exists on the ground. They may not be the same, and reconciling the two may be difficult or impossible to achieve.

The UK is de jure an independent sovereign nation state, however the tangled web of treaties that form the EU have for some years meant that that the de facto situation is quite different. Our "sovereign" parliament has bound itself and its successors in so many different ways that it beggars belief.
If you follow this argument, does the UK's membership of NATO means it's not a sovereign state? (I'm not stating that your argument is wrong, though.)
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