[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Look everybody - the question to ask is what is the £39 billion buying?

The Leavers will say it buys bugger all under this agreement; it won't even guarantee a trade deal because of the weasel wording of the Protocol.

The Remainers will say in that case we shouldn't leave.

Given that we're leaving, the Remainers should get real and back No Deal which guarantees us our sovereignty. We are the world's 5th or 6th largest economy and the initial dip will be just a blip.

The EU may well collapse anyway, which the Remainers haven't taken into account.

To elaborate further, the £39 billion buys potentially perpetual EU veto on our exit from the customs arrangements.

Furthermore, there is no incentive for the EU other than to squeeze our pips in the eventual trade negotiations.

Leavers & Remainers are united in the declaring the current proposals to be worse than disastrous.

But surely the Remainers can concede that the EU is not nice to deal with and there are real grounds for breaking away properly.