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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I'm not disputing they do that, but all countries dealing with refugees and asylum claims will have the same problem.

It's not unique to those coming to the UK.

I never said it was unique to the UK. But this discussion is about the UK and this sub-discussion is the illegal immigration by people who destroy their documents so that they cannot be deported.

This has to be stopped. The EU and UK need to do something drastic before they come in their multi-millions and change, eventually, our culture and society.

Geopolitics (Russia, Belarus, Turkey) are the buggeration factors here and, frankly, it's not going to be stopped without deep and purposeful cooperation between the EU and the UK. Greece, Malta and Italy have coastal weaknesses like the UK has. So even if land border walls are built, Greece, Malta and Italy will need enforcement support from all parties seeking to avoid this immigration.


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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

They come here because they get access to our welfare state.

Simple solution to slow it all down is to give them nothing. Do not house them do not feed them and do not give them money. The French are more than happy to let them try and get across to us. Not their problem any more is it? Turn them back or pick them up and dump them back on the French beaches and stop taking crap from them

This tragedy ultimately imo is the Fremch Governments and their policy of turning a blind eyes fault

... if only. We can't leave them to fend for themselves like the French do; crime and violence will result. The problem is currently intractable because the EU and UK can't meaningfully engage on this.

Macron says it's our fault because of the 'pull factor'; Patel says it's the EU's fault because they can't control their borders.


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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

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Most of you here are far too liberal and likely hate Farage but he has been posting videos and reports proving the French complicity in all this for months

Farage is a great man (I would only vote for him if stood for the Conservatives).