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Old 06-05-2019, 10:04   #2164
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread.

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The self-employed lose out under rules in universal credit that assume a minimum income from self-employment, usually £1,187 a month. It means that 600,000 self-employed people will be worse off.
To stop those taking the mickey and dodging having to look for work.
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Families with more than two children suffer as a result of changes to the law that limits state support to two children. Under the tax credits system, payments are made for more than two children if they were born before 6 April 2017. As a result, 300,000 families will be worse off, losing an average of £40 a week each.
So nobody actually loses anything, they just don't gain as much as they would've.
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People deemed too ill to work or to prepare to work are likely to be better off or receive the same amounts.
Problem with that?


Frank Field complained that Universal Credit was going to be TOO generous.
Measuring anything against the "breadline"/poverty is totally and completely meaningless. That is the very reason it is used. If the price of a loaf of bread went up 100x overnight(think Venezuela), then there would be NO increase in the number defined in poverty. Whereas when the minimum wage goes up, the fictitious breadline also goes up. That INCREASES the number in "poverty". Those just above the previous poverty level are now suddenly defined as being in poverty. Their income hasn't gone down and the prices of anything also haven't gone up........yet. Just shows how ludicrous the measure is.


The notion of a single working age benefit(eg Universal Credit) was put forward by a Government report in 2009.
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