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Old 30-06-2020, 11:00   #12
Kushan
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Re: Windows Paging file question

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Originally Posted by Paul View Post
Thats your opinion, not fact

You do not need a paging file, nor does that article state otherwise.
It simply recommends you have one, as you may get better performance.
(It also allows kernel crash dumps, the loss of which is quite frankly of little importance to average users.)

I had a Win 7 PC, with 8GB of RAM, and no Page File quite happily running for 3+ years.
It had no memory heavy applications on it, mostly just used for browsing.
With 32GB of RAM, you would need to be using serious amounts of memory heavy software before you ever got near to needing one.

As to SSD, like I said, avoid if you can, if you only have ssd drives, its unavoidable.
It is a fact that constant R/W will shorten the SSD life, betting your data on the SSD outliving its write cycle limits is simply gambling.
The size of written data (TB's) not really that relevant, the number of write cycles is what counts. Dont do it unless you have to.

Of course, you can mitigate any eventual ssd failure with good backups, and keeping you data on a different drive to your OS & page file.
If you have 32GB of RAM, I imagine you would be using memory heavy software, otherwise it's just e-peen. But all the same, disabling the page file does nothing good (other than save some disk space) but has performance impacts, stability impacts (Yes, you can reduce stability if something happens to gobble up memory in the right way).

Your anecdotal evidence of a light-use PC with more RAM than it needs is hardly enough against source after source after source claiming otherwise.

Likewise, you keep making claims about SSD lifespan yet studies show different results.

What I find most amusing here is that there's a sheer contradiction in what's being said. On the one hand you're claiming that having tonnes of RAM means you don't need a pagefile, while also saying that putting a pagefile on an SSD will utterly ruin it due to all the writes.

But if you don't need the pagefile because you have so much RAM, then where are all the writes coming from? Which is it?

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Originally Posted by pip08456 View Post
Running a defrag on an SSD will cause more harrm to an SSD than having a page file on it.
SSD's do actually get defragged (And it's good for them), but it's handled differently to HDD's: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRe...ntYourSSD.aspx

SSD's also have other operations done on them that don't apply to HDD's, like TRIM, etc. but it's all handled by the OS.
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