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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy
you can buy a brand new FTA satellite receiver for £30 & have been able to for some time, it'l be a sh*t model but still.
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You're still not getting it.
Your £30 box gets you no HD, no EPG and no interactive services.
A Freesat box, while costing more, gives you HD (if you want it), an EPG and interactive both based on Freeview.
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as you rightly said BBC HD can be received on any HD compatible satellite receiver & has been since launch, freesat hasnt changed that.
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A brand new Sky HD box, purchased without subscription to any Sky package, costs £349 (standard price £249 plus an extra £100 for dodging a contract). And that's not including installation or a viewing card. The Humax HD box for Freesat costs £150.
And please don't suggest that eBay is a viable option - the majority of people in the UK are no more comfortable with buying stuff off eBay than they are setting up their own satellite kit. Don't make the mistake of projecting your own skills and assumptions onto Joe Public. It doesn't work like that.