[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Which only serves to prove why you're a good digital TV installer but would probably be a crap salesman.

No disrespect intended to you, but if you truly don't understand why 'buy your own kit and set it up manually' just doesn't fly with the British public, there is little point in me continuing trying to persuade you.

Freesat exists with a tiny staff and a tiny budget precisely because what they are offering, as is obvious to anyone who knows about satellite TV, is in essence simply a marketable, branded way of receiving free satellite broadcasts that have been there all along.

However, ask youself why it is that the 'manual' option has been there for years, yet without any take-up save for a few hobbyists ... and why Freesat boxes are now flying off the shelves faster than the manufacturers can make more of them?

Partly, it's because someone, in this case the BBC and ITV, is for the first time actually *telling* people they can have this, and, how dare they, actually doing the setting-up for them. Sky have hardly been forthcoming in publicising their own service; after all, they don't want to sell you a box, they want to sell you a subscription.

However the analysts are already beginning to point out the fact that there are now almost 10 million HD-ready TVs in British homes, yet Sky and VM between them have a mere 600,000 HD subscribers. Freesat offers free HD. Go figure it out.

you can buy a brand new FTA satellite receiver for £30 & have been able to for some time, it'l be a sh*t model but still.

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Originally Posted by Matt D

It's only not the case for Sky with ITV HD [Which, being ITV, prob. won't be too good IMO ]

BBC HD is FTA - no need for a Sky HD subscription, no need for a "Freesat from Sky" card.

C4 HD is currently FTV, so requires a card but not a subscription. One it goes FTA (like all the other C4 channels have already done) & appears on Freesat, it will also therefore be FTA on Sky HD boxes too.


I don't pay for a Sky HD sub. - don't see the point/value. Happy with BBC HD & 4 HD.

as you rightly said BBC HD can be received on any HD compatible satellite receiver & has been since launch, freesat hasnt changed that.