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Old 14-10-2017, 14:43   #2249
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Kursk View Post
Bercow has been further sharing his impartiality.

In addition to publicly announcing he voted Remain and insulting the POTUS (and therefore a sizeable number of American citizens), he has now advised that Parliament has the right to ignore the Brexit referendum.

This isn't the sort of 'neutrality' needed at the heart of UK democracy.
That's a statement of fact, too, much as that Donald Trump is racist and sexist. The UK is a representative democracy, not a direct one. Had MPs wanted to they could've taken the whole referendum issue seriously, ensured it would take effect by law and replicated the super-majority requirement of the first one on continued membership of the EEC - they didn't.

MPs know what they can do if they want rid of him.

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Donald has a mandate to end Iran deal, he actually has not done that, he’s kicked it down the road to Congress to see if they legislate any new arrangements, he campaigned hard on it during election, calling it a bad deal and he has a point, Iran will eventually become a nuclear power, which is what this so called deal is suppose to stop.

And like idiots, the UK wants to remain part of the deal, madness, especially when it has just been reported that Iran hacked 9,000 Parliament email accounts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7999801.html
It's the Iran nuclear deal, not a deal over being nice to everyone. You sign a credit agreement with Capital One you don't get to consider it invalid because you don't like one of their advertisements.

Whether Trump has a 'mandate' or not tearing up multi-lateral deals because he doesn't like them, whether they are being adhered to or not, simply ensures that no-one will regard any agreements they have with the US as being solid.

Why strike a deal when, whether you keep your end of the bargain or not, the other side will claim you're not in compliance because they thought it would win votes from people who neither understand or have the desire to understand the deal.

It has ensured that, while the deal is in place and being adhered to, Iran cannot produce nuclear weapons. They are under the tightest inspection regime anywhere and are only able to produce nuclear fuel.

The deal was put in place because sanctions were in danger of starting to fragment. Without those Iran can accelerate their nuclear programme dramatically.

Aside from the MAGA crew find me anyone who thinks this is a good idea?

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Originally Posted by Maggy J View Post
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-41618165

Could get interesting to see how many other global powers will step up and if the US ends up being left out on the world stage.
It also means that even if Congress do decide to implement sanctions on Iran again they'll be doing it alone, or with whatever nations whose arms they can twist.

The US is looking more isolated and, increasingly, less like the world's superpower and more like the school bully. In common with every other superpower they've been getting away with bullying the other kids for a while as it could be said it was all for good aims, but now that's gone. They just look bellicose, unstable and belligerent.

All Trump is doing is accelerating the rise of China and, after that India, along with speeding the decline of the United States. With the lack of stability, guidance and co-operation from the US other nations will increasingly move towards them.

Pity.
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