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Originally Posted by Chroma
Binaries for starters 
Im personaly not a fan of interpreted languages, id rather just stick to tried and tested c/c++ to get things done, sure its not "hip" like Haskel its not "cool" like Ruby on the rails, its also not a toy fad language.
I feel i may be a little close minded on the subject of languages but im old, and grouchy and know that id rather have something tried and tested and supplied with an optional knees deep documentation to rummage through and the reassurance that there will be a variety of newsgroup/irc channel/webpage resources with answers to quirky problems that i may stumble upon.
The only time i use interpreted languages is during the conceptual stage because without the need to continualy recompile i can test things faster before porting it to a real language as a release build.
and i dont feel im biased because of the fact its "ZOMG FASTAR", or has a "smaller footprint" or anything quite as convolouted as that. Ive written some code in c thats been highly unoptimised and hasnt performed nearly as well as the interpreted build, although that can be improved upon by making the code a little less clunky and a little more elegant.
My reason for favoring a compiled language over interpreted is simple. Its far easier for the end user to use and understand, and in this respect it is entirely faster. Click on a binary and go, no messing around with interpreters, configuring an environment or any of that nonsense (unless of course your running a linux/unix/bsd system in which case setting additional bumph is a way of life regardless)
The point is, if i give my brother a binary, he can use it. If i was to give him say a python script he would be essentialy clueless and take a few hours trying to figure out how to use it.
Rebol however looks like a nice language to tinker around with in my spare time, the fact remains however that interpreted languages are only easier for the programmer, and its the end user whos needs you need to cater for. |
you do know
Carl Sassenrath was the guy that wote and gave the world the multitasking Amiga OS right, so he knows a thing or two about coding small, fast, and making it easy for the users?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sassenrath
sure, carl likes C and many of the older languages too, helped code and shape some of them along the way.
its a shame, but you cant get away from Binaries,you would be hard pushed to make your own and keep it so small given all the networking protocols inside it, but robol trys to make it as simple as it gets for a user, grab the Binary ,install it if you like, or run it from wereever you place it, double click a rebol.r text file script and Go, and it loads into the interpreter.
it as you imply, it also makes it a very good and quick prototypeing GUI capable language, and its scripts works as is on linux/unix/bsd systems
http://www.rebol.com/plugin/install.html
this is fun
http://www.rebol.net/plugin/demos/pongo.html
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Originally Posted by Toto
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from toto's url above
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Government orders data retention by ISPs
Keep it for 12 months for the plods..."
and also today we have this report, its a good job we have been reading all the legislation and have some idea of how and why all this inter-relates
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...s-google-earth
"Spy in the sky banned in Europe
Google Earth too intrusive for Euro laws
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Nick Farrell: Friday, 16 May 2008, 9:17 AM
GOOGLE'S PLAN TO PUT detailed street-level images on the Internet will not be allowed in the European Union.
The EU's data protection agency said that Google's Street View, which shows ground-level, 360-degree views of streets in 30 US cities, would break EU privacy laws.
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