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Old 30-06-2018, 00:52   #3340
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Re: Brexit discussion

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Originally Posted by Dave42 View Post
what utter nonsense OB we in this position because of UK government has not got a clue they had 2 years the Eu position been laid out from day 1: It you brexstremists that's living in fantasy island it the brexstremists that want a no deal fall off cliff to happen
No, Dave, you have this completely wrong.

David Cameron pledged to the British people that he would hold a referendum on whether people wanted to leave the EU. He really did think the public would say that they wanted to remain, but he didn't bargain on the strength of feeling that resulted from the EU sending him back with his tail between his legs having put to them some extremely modest proposals, which fell short of what a lot of people wanted.

He was mortified when the electorate voted to leave, and he acknowledged his error by resigning.

It should be clear to everyone that this was an unexpected result as far as the establishment was concerned and we were not prepared for the 'no' vote.

Theresa May is picking up the pieces and has had to grapple with the deep intricacies of this situation. She has had to acknowledge that the public want immigration controlled, the feeling that we should be making our own laws and we should look for more trade outside the EU.

Everyone now surely understands that this is not an easy thing to achieve, even with a majority in Parliament, which TM doesn't have.

To attain what the British people have voted for, it has now become obvious to most people with a brain that we have to not only leave the EU, but also pull out of the Common Market and the Customs Union.

Clearly, this is not an easy nut to crack, but given the decision of the electorate and TM's lack of a majority, what would you have her do?

To my mind, she is more than half way to achieving her goal, and I think she will get there. If the EU stand firm and say 'Non', it will be the hard Brexit that no-one wants.

So, in all seriousness, Dave, what would you have her do? Betray the British electorate and say "oh, all right, then" to the EU or stand up for what the majority voted for?

You might not have voted for this yourself, but as a true democrat, I'm sure that you want the will of the electorate to be carried out.

What say you? Do you agree or do you agree?
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