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popper · 13-04-2008, 03:44

Hi simon.

and as i said on thursday in the other thread #2809 #2845

given the vast scope of your PIA with an estimated 70% plus of the whole UK internet individuals effected, this local townhall type meeting you propose is nowere near enough to cover anywere near the scope.

a live publicly managed UK housed IRC session (not on Phorm owned/run servers)as pointed out earlyer in the other thread, might be good, and go some way to better fulfil your PIA individuals stakeholder analysis

infact given it involves the interweb

this is the only viable and open way.

an adaptable live web poll, in case some new information comes to light and needs adressing live.

so having the ability to ask a live question, click a vote web page, and mark it's result down for public feedback and clarity for all to see, simple and effective.

(remember the Zimbabwean voting... and still waiting for the result; we dont want that kind of happening going on, do we, on this most important issue in the UK online community to date)

as you said yourself here http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technolo...acetoface.html
just hours ago....

Simon Davies
MD, 80/20 Thinking Ltd said:
"After all, this is clearly the most important privacy issue of recent decades."

i agree..., and that being the case, your proposal that you might take private Emails for questions is in no way appropriate for this public PIA

the 70% of the UK individual stakeholders effected are waiting for their chance to contribute to this live Open ISP/Phorm PIA , are you going to deny them this chance given your quote, and easy access to a currently Non Intercepted FAST University net Connection and kit right there in the room.

you have one chance for open and clear realtime transparency ,using the PIA located london universitys campus wireless and realtime streaming video capture equipment, that location gives you the perfect place to do all the basic things i outlined above, if you were to talk to the campus net techs, SO DO IT, and even more if you can.

you must open this up realtime for all partys to contribute and be heard publicly.

BTW, is this a fixed time scale, or do you intend leaving it open ended incase more time is required and wanted to address any live issues ?

13-04-2008, 03:44	#25
popper Inactive Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,270	Re: Phorm Public Meeting - Official Thread Hi simon. and as i said on thursday in the other thread #2809 #2845 given the vast scope of your PIA with an estimated 70% plus of the whole UK internet individuals effected, this local townhall type meeting you propose is nowere near enough to cover anywere near the scope. a live publicly managed UK housed IRC session (not on Phorm owned/run servers)as pointed out earlyer in the other thread, might be good, and go some way to better fulfil your PIA individuals stakeholder analysis infact given it involves the interweb this is the only viable and open way. an adaptable live web poll, in case some new information comes to light and needs adressing live. so having the ability to ask a live question, click a vote web page, and mark it's result down for public feedback and clarity for all to see, simple and effective. (remember the Zimbabwean voting... and still waiting for the result; we dont want that kind of happening going on, do we, on this most important issue in the UK online community to date) as you said yourself here http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technolo...acetoface.html just hours ago.... Simon Davies MD, 80/20 Thinking Ltd said: "After all, this is clearly the most important privacy issue of recent decades." i agree..., and that being the case, your proposal that you might take private Emails for questions is in no way appropriate for this public PIA the 70% of the UK individual stakeholders effected are waiting for their chance to contribute to this live Open ISP/Phorm PIA , are you going to deny them this chance given your quote, and easy access to a currently Non Intercepted FAST University net Connection and kit right there in the room. you have one chance for open and clear realtime transparency ,using the PIA located london universitys campus wireless and realtime streaming video capture equipment, that location gives you the perfect place to do all the basic things i outlined above, if you were to talk to the campus net techs, SO DO IT, and even more if you can. you must open this up realtime for all partys to contribute and be heard publicly. BTW, is this a fixed time scale, or do you intend leaving it open ended incase more time is required and wanted to address any live issues ?