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Old 08-11-2019, 09:21   #334
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Re: Election 2019, Week 1

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Illegal: forbidden by law.
Unlawful: not authorised by law.

If you’re going to play lawyers, do try to get your basic facts right. The Supreme Court ruled the advice unlawful, not illegal. There is more than a trivial difference between the two.

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It is not the Queen’s role to seek advice from any other source. Her constitutional role is to receive advice from ministers. That is what ministers are for.

You can’t judge someone ineffective for not doing something they are neither permitted nor expected to do. You might as well declare your car ineffective because it doesn’t float.
In this case the distinction is irrelevant. The Prime Minister sought to carry out an action that he was constitutionally unable to do. The outcome: to have that action reversed. Illegal and unlawful are irrelevant to the point. I also at no point said they mean the same thing - I said I didn’t care for the distinction in this instance because it has no bearing on outcome.

I can judge someone ineffective for having no role other than being a passive observer to an unlawful act. Yes, I absolutely can.
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