Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Nothing good will come from demonising and alienating a section of society what we need to do is include everyone and get back to the days where if you could work you felt obligated to work. We've lost that and the economic and social cost has been enormous what more proof is needed for the whole demonising doesn't work. That said there is no point instilling a good work ethic in those people for whom there isn't a job and the sad reality is we still have far more people out of work then there are vacancy's for them to apply for it simply cannot be written off as "lazy people".

We also need to make sure that we as a society don't let lousy politicians lead us into a cynical round of divide and conquer because that doesn't aid any of us it merely allows them to get off free for their failures. We do have problems in welfare that isn't up for debate the problems exist and we have a tiny minority who take any chance to abuse the system and they must be dealt with specifically not a wide brush approach that we currently have because it doesn't work.