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Originally Posted by Stephen
I have no major issues with TLJ, however there are some points set up in TFA that were totally shat all over and dismissed totally, that they had to retcon or ignore or gloss over in TROS. Smoke was building up to be this big bad and then just killed off. Same with Phasma.
I really enjoyed TROS and thought it ended the Saga really well. The final scene was especially moving and really well done.
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Yes, I get that some stuff from The Force Awakens ultimately didn’t survive to the end of The Last Jedi. But to suggest these were simply dismissed or dumped on is to completely miss the point The Last Jedi was making. There are plenty of things
within The Last Jedi that are set up and pulled down again - it is a deliberate motif, deployed in order to force the viewer out of their comfort zone. We were 8 films in at that point and the hardcore fanboys were behaving like they already knew exactly what was going on.
Luke, and then Yoda, turn Jedi lore on its head by suggesting that the Force might actually be accessible to all and then burning down the temple, but Rey still escapes Luke’s planet with the ancient books, and in The Rise of Skywalker
Admiral Holdo is presented as an inadequate leader who will ultimately have to be deposed by the hero Poe Dameron, only to be revealed as an astute tactician who is forced to kick the impulsive, short-sighted Dameron out of her way in order to save the last of the resistance fighters.
The first confrontation in The Last Jedi involves an evacuation that looks exactly like the one from the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back, except this time they don’t escape.
The final confrontation, on Crait, is set up to look exactly like Hoth, except the plain is blanketed in salt, not ice (salt destroys ice
) overlying a mineral that looks like blood; not a single First Order AT-AT is taken down and Finn’s heroic attack run is forcibly halted by Rose.
Time and time again, The Last Jedi sets up sci-fi tropes (usually tropes that have previously been employed within the franchise itself) and then knocks them down.