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Old 01-04-2013, 13:09   #6
tizmeinnit
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Re: Poor affected - The Rich not affected again - why?

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
You're putting the cart before the horse. Frank Field made this argument at the end of the 90s but Liebour chose to open the immigration floodgates, depress wages as a result (wage levels being a function of supply and demand, just the same as everything else) and silence the non-working indigenous population with benefits. Now it's coming home to roost but the Left seems unable to recognise the contradiction at the heart of its argument. If you keep benefit levels up, then you simultaneously disincentivise a certain part of the population from working at all, while also subsidising low wages through the tax credit system.

IDS's reforms so far are aimed at making work more attractive than worklessness. They have also - slowly - begun to erode the real terms value of in-work benefits. We are on a very long haul here, but where we need to get to is a situation where welfare helps those that cannot help themselves and provides incentives to those that can, with a nudge in the right direction.
but there are still only one job for every 5 unemployed where are they going to magically get all these jobs needed? where are they going to magically get all the smaller properties needed by families who want to move who can not afford the loss of housing benefit? Its ok giving them a nudge but for many there is nowhere for them to go after they are nudged or kicked as some feel it?
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