[nomadking]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If you actually watch the relevant section of the video, you will see that he was not resisting arrest when he was then pinned to the ground for a full 9 minutes. He did not struggle and he told the officers he could not breathe. He was in that position for 9 minutes, for God sake! We all saw it. We heard him pleading for his life, but they did not care. So why are you defending the police? Do you really think that was reasonable behaviour from professional police officers?

You cannot seriously expect to be able to divert attention by referring to the black policeman, who had been with the force for just a couple of weeks and therefore would have been doing as he was ordered to do.

The rest of the civilised world is appalled and disgusted by the behaviour of the police in this case and you should stop trying to defend the indefensible.

I'M DEFENDING THE TRUTH. Whatever way you look at it, the problem WASN'T the neck, it was the CHEST. THAT IS A FACT.

The question STILL remains, what would he have done when he was allowed back up. The video doesn't show too much of him, and the wider viewpoint is when the camera is shifting around a lot. The 3 officers were effectively blocking any full view. You can CLEARLY see he IS moving around, involving his right shoulder.

He RESISTED getting out of his vehicle. He had to be forcibly dragged out. He deliberately dropped to the ground when approaching the patrol car. If he was thrashing around in the patrol car, he might've been removed for HIS OWN SAFETY to calm down. Thrashing around in a confined space, isn't a good idea.

Do we know what Leung was or wasn't ordered to do?


He was saying a lot of words for somebody who supposedly couldn't breathe. Talking requires the movement of air through the larynx, ie breathing. If you can say "I can't breathe" a total of 16 times, along with other things, you clearly CAN breathe.

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Under “other significant conditions”, it said, Floyd suffered from heart disease and hypertension, and listed fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use.

And he was planning on driving.

Baden and Wilson found that weight being applied to Floyd’s back, his hands being cuffed behind his back and the position of his body, where he was also at times being restrained by other officers as he lay on the ground, “were contributory factors because they impaired the ability of Mr Floyd’s diaphragm to function”.

Methamphetamine

A user may feel anxious and confused, be unable to sleep, have mood swings, and become violent.
...
Angry outbursts or mood swings
Psychotic behavior, such as paranoia and hallucinations

Fentanyl

Fentanyl's effects include

• extreme happiness
• drowsiness
• nausea
• confusion
• constipation
• sedation
• problems breathing
• unconsciousness

Floyd apparently claimed to be claustrophobic and didn't want to get in the patrol car. He had just been in a car of similar size.